Funding a Seattle residence with a self-directed IRA

Funding a Seattle residence with a self-directed IRA

Rental Property Investor · Champaign, IL · Member since 2015 · 146 posts · 80 votes

So I'm considering a possible move to Seattle, which is a crazy market. Coming from the Midwest with a relatively low-paying job I wouldn't have enough cash to invest using traditional methods. I'm wondering if someone with experience in self-directed IRA investing could comment on the possible path below (I acknowledge no one responding is providing legal advice, etc. and I should check with a lawyer - I'm just looking for whether going down this path might be possible before calling my lawyer and getting a bill).

I have roughly $100K in a rollover 401k from a previous employer and I was thinking I could put that in a self-directed IRA to put a sizeable down payment on something that I could personally live in. I would have a property manager as I know I'm not allowed to actively manage real estate in a self-directed IRA. My question is whether that would still clear the bar of those rules. My IRA would be buying, the property manager would be managing, and I'd be paying normal market rent. Though it would be essentially paying myself, I'm hoping that might be hands-off enough to qualify.

I'm thinking this would be beneficial as I wouldn't have to worry about the tenant not paying rent, I would be building equity over time in a market it would otherwise be very difficult for me to enter, and I'd be able to minimize fees by finding the lowest cost property management possible (as I wouldn't need to worry about tenant screening, etc). 

What do you think? 

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  • Retirement Accounts Attorney · Southfield, MI · Member since 2017 · 3k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    8y

    @Shawn Q.

    @Shawn Q.Good question. However, the rules also do not permit the IRA holder to use an asset owned by his or her IRA. As such, it would be prohibited for you to live in the IRA owned property even if you paid market rent.

    Following is a good resource on the rules.

    https://www.irs.gov/retirement-plans/plan-participant-employee/retirement-topics-prohibited-transactions

    Another option is to open a solo 401k if you are self-employed and then you can borrow $50,000 once you transfer the IRA to the solo 401k plan. This is known as a 401k participant loan.

  • Solo 401k Expert · Anaheim Hills, CA · Member since 2012 · 18k+ posts · 6k+ votes
    8y

    Shawn, as a "disqualified person" to your IRA you are not allowed to receive any personal benefits (using investment as a residence) from your IRA. Unfortunately your idea won't work.

  • Rental Property Investor · Mercer Island, WA · Member since 2008 · 22k+ posts · 14k+ votes
    8y

    You might be able to move this IRA into the 401k with your new employer and then take out a $50K loan to use for a down payment. But, no, you cannot in any way personally benefit from any transaction your IRA does.

  • Rental Property Investor · Champaign, IL · Member since 2015 · 146 posts · 80 votes
    8y

    Thanks all! Shame it won't work out. Coincidentally @Dmitriy Fomichenko I just got your book on amazon. At least when I finish it I'll have a better baseline understanding than now! 

    And thanks for the pointer @George Blower - I'll take a look and see if that increases my options!

  • Mortgage Loan Officer · Graham, WA · Member since 2017 · 9 posts · 1 vote
    8y

    @Shawn Q. I agree, you could roll over the 401k and take a loan against it for your down payment.  Are you a current homeowner (probably a silly question)?  If not, we could explore down payment assistance from WA State.  Or we have a new proprietary product, Home Fund Me, that allows you to crowd-fund for your down payment - with free matching funds available!

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