Newbie in Michigan, learning, learning, learning.

Newbie in Michigan, learning, learning, learning.

Investor · Mancelona, MI · Member since 2019 · 43 posts · 24 votes

Hello to everyone.

Yup, I'm new, but not completely inexperienced.   I just did it the hard way first.  Luckily, I'm one lucky person it seems and avoided most of the pitfalls right off the bat.  

I'll go ahead and tell my story since some might find it amusing.  I bought my first house for 37k.  Seemed a steal of a deal 5br,2 bath.  Not huge, but since I'm a cheap bastard, it stank to high heaven of dog piss and whatever else died in it.  I found a town that had dying businesses left and right.  3 large factories had just went out of business and people were fighting to get out. 

My day job doesn't matter where I lived so it seemed perfect.  It was.

I'm now sitting on a 100k house, maybe more since I never got it appraised since then after all my slow improvements I did over the years.  I have a smart house now since with my job it's simple stuff.  (I'm a tech type).  

Decided to jump into real estate investing and went out to look at a property just last month.  It was an auction and I had 2 days to decided to bid or not.   I got an appt to see it and found a place that also stank like death, but when I went downstairs, it had a new furnace, still with tags, new hot water tank, new wiring (and I know wiring), new plumbing, and some new foundation support beams.  then outside, the siding was new, roof was new, and I just couldn't pass it up, this is a dream house to me.  30k bid and no one else competed and it was mine.   Fastest closing ever too, literally 2 days.    Hudzu.com   If you have to deal with them, be happy.  Don't get discouraged by all the heavy Indian accents.  They are that good.  Soooo on top of things.

Turned out I'm lucky as hell and it was just that good.  Ripped everything down to the studs and of course, my mistakes started showing up.  I did the newbie thing of trying to get the "good ol boys" contractors, because Cheap!  Hahahaha.   Yeah, Ok, I learned my lesson.  6k later I barely had decent drywall and not much else.  Luckily, my brother does drywall and happened to quit his job.  My savior!  I redid the wiring, plumbing, and paint.  Thanks for me being a bookworm and knowing that stuff.  (I really hate 4 way, 3 light switches, so confusing).   Floors come in tomorrow actually.  Considering the other houses sold in the area around 180k and looked worse than what I got, I'm soooo looking forward to the appraisal of this one.  I think I got a little forced appreciation here.  Oh, just a little bit.  I spent 15k on the renovations since I don't mind eating the time spent fixing since I paid in cash anyway.  

Anyway, enough self patting on the back.  That's where I am.  Starting out and having no clue.  Decided to pick up a book to learn more and it mentioned this site so I landed here.   So Brandon Turner, if you read this.  Great book, I was impressed.   The info was amazing.   I listen to audiobooks while driving at work and I spent entirely too much time stopping so I could write things down.  Says a lot.  

To everyone else, hope to talk to you more and I'm always open for advice.  I love constructive criticism.  Yeah, really, not just saying that.  Pointing out my screw ups so helps.  I'm already doing thing in retro because I kind of am brave, but at least read up later.  Hunting that CPA and lawyer now so the rest goes smooth.   Good thing the cash flow is going to be strong.

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Solo 401k Expert · Anaheim Hills, CA · Member since 2012 · 18k+ posts · 6k+ votes
7y

Welcome to the BP family @Chad Clark ! Glad you joined the best real estate investing website! 

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  • Real Estate Broker · MI · Member since 2014 · 594 posts · 183 votes
    7y

    @Chad Clark Glad you have found us! Welcome to BP.

  • Solo 401k Expert · Anaheim Hills, CA · Member since 2012 · 18k+ posts · 6k+ votes
    7y

    Welcome to the BP family @Chad Clark ! Glad you joined the best real estate investing website! 

    Here are some recommendations for you:

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    Accountant · New York, NY · Member since 2015 · 8k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    7y

    @Chad Clark

    Welcome to biggerpockets!

    It looks like you will do just fine in real estate as you will deal with properties that other investors will not touch. That is where the money is at.

  • Real Estate Agent · Wellington, FL · Member since 2019 · 7 posts · 2 votes
    7y

    @Chad Clark Welcome

  • Realtor · Detroit, MI · Member since 2018 · 387 posts · 129 votes
    7y

    @Chad Clark  Welcome. Great stories. I could relate to buying those unwanted properties

  • Investor · CO · Member since 2011 · 107 posts · 28 votes
    7y

    @Chad Clark - I have some questions :) !  But first, welcome  - I think you will enjoy this site - tons of info and even better are the people here who are so generous with their knowledge.

    So how did you find your first house?  I'm assuming it's in Mancelona - how did you decide on Mancelona?  Is the town doing better now?  Is the 2nd one in Mancelona?  What are your plans for the 2nd one - hold and rent or flip?  

  • Investor · Mancelona, MI · Member since 2019 · 43 posts · 24 votes
    7y

    Thanks Tanya.    Both houses are in Mancelona.   I originally moved here into a fixer upper since with my work as a remote, it didn't really matter where I lived.   So I picked the cheapest real estate in the area.   I picked Mancelona due to it losing 3 large manufacturing plants all at the same time and it was obvious the market had bottomed out in the town.   I had mostly wanted a break from bills at the time and being able to buy a house at 37k was perfect to have a super low mortgage payment and be able to have more cash for other things.   

    The second I just bought because it was a ridiculous good deal and my first one was paid off.  I could afford to buy the second in cash.   Right now, i'm renovating the 2nd (will be done by May 1st, total of 3 months).  I plan to rent it out, then refinance, then start hunting the next.   I have my eye on another already.    My brother is a carpenter and can do drywall which are my weak spots.   I'm good with plumbing, electrical, and fancy crap like smart home junk.   I invested in a professional paint sprayer so I can do whole houses by myself.  Expensive, but soooo worth it.    That was my reasoning for getting into this.  Seemed like a good idea and the skill sets worked between us.

    The town itself is doing somewhat better, but still mediocre.  It's the neighboring towns booming that are bringing it up.  Traverse City is a huge tourist resort area and Mancelona is only 30 minutes away with not much in between.   Eventually, that town will start the downfall since it's getting too big for what it's roads can handle already and I expect this little town will start going back to normal fast.  Luckily, the buy low thing applies right now.

  • Real Estate Agent · Traverse City, MI · Member since 2018 · 22 posts · 11 votes
    7y

    Hello from your neighboring Traverse City :) @Chad Clark

  • Investor · Mancelona, MI · Member since 2019 · 43 posts · 24 votes
    7y

    Nice, someone close by.   Have to keep ya saved just in case we run into each other.  I look into TC as well, though it's a little overpriced anymore.   Seems like way too much of a bubble for me. 

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