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Madigan Tumilowicz
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What strategies are working for you in Denver?

Madigan Tumilowicz
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Denver, CO
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Hello BP! I'm a fifth-generation Denverite and marketing writer who just moved back after a decade living in the San Francisco Bay Area. Denver sure has grown up! I recently closed on a primary residence and now have my sights set on a first buy-and-hold rental property. I already have financing lined up and am reading tons of REI books to educate myself. Given the high prices here, my goal is to start with a SFH or even a condo or townhouse just to get my feet wet. My husband has some construction background and we are not afraid of a mild-to-moderate rehab. House hacking or a live-in rehab is not an option, as we have three young children.

However, I’m quite discouraged by all the numbers I'm running. I’m trying to decide if I should try to hunt for illusive deals here in the Denver area or switch my focus to out-of-state, although distance investing as a newbie scares me.

I know COVID-19 my be a game-changer, but I'm wondering: What strategies are working for you in Denver and surrounds? Is anyone attempting BRRRR here right now? Are flips a better bet? For a rookie, is finding--or creating--a cash-flowing property (while crisis homeschooling 3 kids) even in the realm of possibility? Outside of Denver, what suburbs should I investigate?

I’d really appreciate any insight into how people are making this work locally, or sub-markets to explore. Thanks!

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Steve K.#2 Real Estate Success Stories Contributor
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Steve K.#2 Real Estate Success Stories Contributor
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Hi Madigan, Welcome home to Denver! 

If you look at my profile I explain my deals a bit and talk about the strategy that has been working well for me (small multifamily with a value add component). 

Here are some other strategies that I see people doing here successfully: 

--Starting off with a condo. They are less expensive and thereby easier to find one that has positive cash flow due to the lower price point than a single family home. With condos it's important to verify that the association allows rentals and that the association is managed well and has reserves for Capex such as roofs and driveways, (in order to avoid getting hit with a big special assessment unexpectedly). Condos generally appreciate slower than other property types, and are the first sector to lose value in a downturn, but they offer the lowest barrier to entry and in Denver its easier to find a condo that cashflows as a rental than it is a single family home.

--Renting by the room. It's more management intensive but you can get a lot more in rent by renting the rooms of a home out individually. People are making this work in this market. Covid-19 has probably made this strategy a little more challenging due to people being less inclined to live with a bunch of roommates right now, and occupancy limits for non-related residents is also something to consider with this strategy, but it can be a great way to maximize rent in a single family home that otherwise wouldn't provide cash flow.

--Buying a fixer, fixing it, and renting it. Sort of like a fix and flip but holding it instead of flipping. This is an active strategy but I like it because you build in initial equity, and you can create positive cashflow (assuming you get enough of a discount on the property due to its condition). It can be harder to find financing on truly distressed properties, so many people use cash or hard money lenders to get started and then refinance into a conventional loan to access their equity when the project is completed. 

--Investing out of the metro area. I have friends and clients who are building their portfolios in areas about 45min to 1hr. outside the city, where prices are much lower and price to rent ratios are more favorable for rental properties. Some examples include Frederick, Firestone, Johnstown, Longmont, Loveland, or even areas closer to the metro that are less expensive but rapidly improving like Aurora (especially north Aurora), Cole, Barnum, East and West Colfax, Commerce City, etc. There are still pockets of affordable areas all over the city that are on the upswing. 

--Long distance investing. I know several people here who have gone this direction. I also know several who got burned pretty badly so be careful. It can definitely be done but comes with additional challenges and risks over investing locally. If you consider this avenue, I would recommend looking at places where you have someone on the ground you can trust 110%.

--If you can afford to go straight into multifamily, the economies of scale in this category make it much easier to generate initial cash flow. However MF properties are hard to find and have a high barrier to entry (25% down on a $600k+ purchase is basically where MF properties start). 

It all boils down to what your goals are. Most people are looking for at least some initial cash flow and many are priced out of multifamily so they start with one of the other above strategies. Other people are just looking to park some money and are okay without much initial cashflow, so they might go for a small multifamily with a low cap rate, in a low risk sub-market, and bank on getting their return from rent increases over time, appreciation, principle pay-down and depreciation tax benefits. 

Flipping I'd say is a risky strategy to get into as a beginner at this point in the market cycle especially considering the current economic uncertainty, but I know a few people who are having continued success flipping as well so it can certainly be done. 

For me the strategy that makes the most sense is small multifamily, in areas that are improving, and I like to buy somewhat distressed properties where I can make improvements, increase rents over time, and add value. 

It helps to consider what your personal strengths are and play to your strengths. For example if you or your husband is handy that opens a lot of doors for you in terms of the condition of the property you're comfortable with taking on. Since you're a Colorado native, you may have connections here and be able to source off market deals through your personal network of friends and family which could be a huge competitive advantage (finding deals may be the biggest challenge here).  Maybe you're good at managing and the best strategy for you is finding a poorly managed property and turning it around. Consider what you can bring to the table and go with a strategy that fits you personally. 

Good luck and let me know if I can help further. I have 3 young kids too and I'm pulling it off, so you can too. Just don't trust anyone who talks about owning rentals being "passive income"! That hasn't been my experience. It's work. But it's worth it. 

Steve

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