Vacation rentals in Hawaii

Vacation rentals in Hawaii

Rental Property Investor · Northern, CA · Member since 2012 · 5k+ posts · 5k+ votes

I'm starting to look into buying a STR property in Hawaii and I know there's other members on here who have plenty of experience in this area that I'm hoping can chime in with their collective experience/recommendations/input on the matter.

I'm sure some people will think it's crazy to consider buying in Hawaii right now with everything going on with COVID, and that may be true.  However, I also have to assume this pandemic can't last forever and perhaps - because of the pandemic - there just might be quite a few current owners looking to sell at a discount.  So maybe there's some deals to be had.

Regardless, my wife and I have always planned to move to Hawaii full-time down the road, but we're now thinking about picking up a property a little sooner than expected and just living there part-time (a few weeks at a time) while renting it out as a STR the rest of the time to help cover the costs.

We do realize that until some of the current travel restrictions are lifted that any STR income may be limited (or non-existent) and consequently have set a tentative timeline for our purchase of 6-12 months out, which is why we're starting to do our research early (to make sure we're prepared to pull the trigger if/when the time comes).

Our favorite island is Maui, but we also like Kauai and would definitely consider that island too. (Those are the only two islands we're considering.) From my initial research, if we were to choose Maui, we'd be limited to a condo. (Not sure if Kauai allows STR of single family houses or not.) And on Kauai it seems we'd need to stick to one of the three designated VDA areas (Poipu, Princeville, or Kapa'a). Also looking for at least a 2 bdrm, 2 bath property since we'll also be staying there ourselves.

With all that being said, does anyone have any input/suggestions on the best areas to buy on these two islands?  And any other input/suggestions for the best types of properties or other things we should take into consideration?

Thanks in advance!

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Real Estate Broker · Wailea, HI · Member since 2016 · 134 posts · 77 votes
6y

@Kyle J.Kyle, focus on location. Think about where tourists like to stay and focus on finding the right property that meets your investment criteria. The Honokowai area just north of Kaanapali is good area as the prices are lower but you are very close proximity to the Kaanapali resort amenities (shopping, restaurants, etc.). Same thing on the south side. South Kihei (south of Walaka St) is also a solid choice for the same reasons -walkable to everythign.

Also, keep in mind that 2br units do not rent as well as 1br condos. So keep your expectations in check. The condo market here is slow right now as most of the condos are sitting empty. As a result, for the first time in a while, we are seeing price reductions on short term rental condos.

Happy to answer any other questions you might have.

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  • Real Estate Broker · Wailea, HI · Member since 2016 · 134 posts · 77 votes
    6y

    @Kyle J.Kyle, focus on location. Think about where tourists like to stay and focus on finding the right property that meets your investment criteria. The Honokowai area just north of Kaanapali is good area as the prices are lower but you are very close proximity to the Kaanapali resort amenities (shopping, restaurants, etc.). Same thing on the south side. South Kihei (south of Walaka St) is also a solid choice for the same reasons -walkable to everythign.

    Also, keep in mind that 2br units do not rent as well as 1br condos. So keep your expectations in check. The condo market here is slow right now as most of the condos are sitting empty. As a result, for the first time in a while, we are seeing price reductions on short term rental condos.

    Happy to answer any other questions you might have.

  • Rental Property Investor · Campbell, CA · Member since 2017 · 419 posts · 499 votes
    6y

    @Kyle J. I own and self manage several properties exclusively in Kauai.

    Your instincts are spot on about deals being had. The longer the quarantine continues the more people are looking to dump them and move on. These rentals can make great money but they also have very high carrying costs which many didn’t set aside funds for this type of event.

    In Kauai you want to be near Poipu Beach. Larger units rent MUCH better than 1 bedrooms, which seems to be opposite of the poster above me.

    I only purchase 3 bedrooms, unless the 1 bedroom is too good of a deal to pass up. I’m actively looking to purchase new units even during this pandemic.

    The numbers in Kauai will be far superior to any of the other islands, and I would challenge anyone who says otherwise.

    Your biggest issue will be the management. If you decide not to self manage expect to pay 35-45% in management fees, and you won’t make any money. There are a few independent managers who will charge 15-20% and you will do quite well.

    Feel free to shoot me a PM if you decide on Kauai and I’d be happy to answer your questions.

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    Property Manager · Orlando Kissimmee Davenport Salt Lake City, Park City · Member since 2019 · 991 posts · 1k+ votes
    6y

    When we visited Kauai not too long ago we stayed in a SFH in Hanalei and there tons of others up on AirBNB/VRBO for rent as well. Are those just grandfathered in to old rental policies or something? You can't buy in that area for vacation renting now?

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  • Rental Property Investor · Northern, CA · Member since 2012 · 5k+ posts · 5k+ votes
    6y

    @Mark Waite  Thank you for your input.  If we were to go with Maui, Kihei is actually where we would likely look because it's where we always stay when we go there.  Not only is it our favorite area to stay, but it seems to be quite popular with other tourists as well.

    @Mike V.  Thank you for your input also.  It was actually reading through some of your posts on other threads that first got me considering buying on Kauai, whereas previously we were only looking at Maui.  Coincidentally, on our last visit to that island we stayed in Poipu and really liked it there, so that's good to hear you recommend that area.   

    @Ryan Moyer I'm not the expert on vacation rentals in Kauai, but - as I understand it - you are allowed to legally rent out a STR outside of the designated three VDA's if you have something called a TVR (Transient Vacation Rental) permit. However, they stopped issuing those back in 2008, so only those people who already have them (and continue to renew them) can legally operate in places like Hanalei (and a quick check shows there are well over a hundred issued in Hanalei).

  • NorCal · Member since 2018 · 7 posts · 4 votes
    6y

    Hey @Kyle J.also Norcal here, also own a condo there in Kihei. My wife were in the same boat a few years ago and decided to take the plunge. What you're asking is also what we were asking. I do also agree with those here mention for that for most part people are hurting from the carrying costs and deals to be had. My wife did the leg work on location for us and narrowed it down to a few complexes. Ultimately, with location, solid books and low HOA with a great location - we bought into Maui Vista. Our first year we did 82% occupancy and last year about 95%. We were starting a record year this here until 'rona showed up. Our advantage is it's paid off, so I only have HOA and a little power/internet to worry about. That said, we're entertaining a long term rental (6 mos) since I don't see IGE or Hawaii moving any faster. So, we're opting for bird in the hand...best of luck! OH and the 1 bedroom vs 3 bedroom, does matter. 2 beds is 3rd place.

  • Residential Real Estate Broker · Paia, HI · Member since 2016 · 479 posts · 311 votes
    6y

    Aloha, Kyle! I have two vacation rentals myself, one in Kihei. I have rented them long-term for the moment. Happy to answer any questions you may have!

    I agree that prices will probably be coming down after September when the forbearance ends. I don't see the governor letting tourists in anytime soon.

  • Rental Property Investor · Member since 2021 · 6 posts · 3 votes
    4y

    How is everyone in here doing with their Hawaii rentals now? I just visited and after comparing cost versus income, it seems like a good market for rentals. I notice (on Big Island at least) there are a lot of additional monthly costs you don't always see on mainland like the lease cost for a leasehold. The HOA fees are pretty steep at most of the places I have seen, but even with that considered, most of the average rentals for LTRs seem to be about double the cost of mortgage plus additional costs. I am wondering how bad home insurance is on Big Island with the volcanos. I saw some articles saying depending on your lava zone, it can be very difficult to find coverage.

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