Buying a unit with family

Buying a unit with family

Homeowner · Canada · Member since 2021 · 1 post · 0 votes

Hi everyone,

I have a unique problem that I'm having difficulty coming up with creative solutions for. Here it is:

My wife and I are looking at ways that we can help my sister-in-law and her husband finance a home, while having it also make good financial sense for us (i.e., we definitely want to help them out, but we're also looking to get a decent return on our investment in the long-run)

My wife and I live about 4 hours away from them. We have about $250k left on our mortgage and our house is valued at about $430k. Our combined income is about $220k/year.

They live in the GTA (Toronto - one of Canada's most expensive real estate markets). They have both have decent jobs (about $170k/year combined pre-tax income) and currently could put up about $100k on a down payment. The problem is that houses in their area are closing in on $1 million for a 2 bedroom and they're having difficulty getting financing. My wife and I have been in the workforce much longer, so we have a lot more wealth built up as well. 

Everyone involved is open to the idea of owning a single family home, or a multifamily home, with the in-laws living in 1 unit.

Some options we discussed are:

1) Just doing a 50-50 split on a single family home, where for example we put down $100k and they put down $100k and we all split mortgage payments evenly, and of course my wife and I own half the house. Then when they eventually sell, (doesn't matter to us if it's in 1 year or 20 years), we split it 50-50. The problem I see with this is that we're paying the same as them, and they're also getting a place to live out of it, so it's uneven split in favour of my in-laws. How could this be balanced out to account for this? Is it usual for them to pay 'rent' to us in a situation like this? Or maybe they pay a larger chunk of the mortgage payments? E.g.: 60/40 or 30/70 split.

2) Similar idea as above, but with a duplex or triplex instead. My in-laws would live in 1 unit and we'd rent the rest out. If my wife and I weren't involved, it would be a simple house-hack. But with us investing half the up-front cost, and my in-laws living there, it complicates things again. This would have the benefit of my handyman brother-in-law being on-site, so no property management group needed! But just like with the first option, it seems like a very difficult thing to structure financially that makes sense for everyone.

Anyway, I could go on and on about possibilities, but I'm curious if anyone has seen a situation like this before, or knows a good article/resource on this.

Thanks in advance!

Josh

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  • Specialist · Toronto, Ontario · Member since 2012 · 2k+ posts · 891 votes
    5y

    I have never been in this situation before but I would suggest

    The split be proportionate to the down payment that is contributed 

    Even if your family puts in 100% of the downpayment but they require your income to qualify for the mortgage and for you to be on title I would still ask for a small chunk like 10-20% of equity as you have some risk in the deal.

  • Rental Property Investor · Boston, Massachusetts (MA) · Member since 2016 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    5y

    Given what you described--you want to help but need some return--I would suggest offering a second mortgage at a fair rate and not splitting equity. You are helping them buy their home as opposed to being partners which is easier and  you should do fine with it. Secure it by the property, subordinate it to the lending bank. Lots of room to give them a better rate than hard money and still do fine. Not sure about Canada, but there is a once a year/family and friends exception to mortgage licensing here. Maybe something like 5% annually amortized over 25? Balloon at 10 if bank allows and you guys are comfortable with it.

  • Rental Property Investor · Boston, Massachusetts (MA) · Member since 2016 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    5y

    sorry, to complete the thought....you would be lending them say half of the downpayment (10%) and they would pay the other 10% ad be borrowthe rest from the bank. Simple, clean and no issues of control. They own the house, you hold a partial mortgage. If it gets uncomfortable they can refinance out.

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