Is this Tenant a deadbeat?

Is this Tenant a deadbeat?

Nathan GesnerBusiness Member
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Real Estate Broker · Cody, WY · Member since 2010 · 28k+ posts · 41k+ votes

https://nypost.com/2021/03/18/...

A couple observations:

1. Tenant claims she was not reimbursed for the broken key/doorknob. Read her letter. Should the Landlord reimburse her?

2. Welfare paid her rent for an entire year even though she was capable of working (she resigned from a well-paying job). Why isn't she working and making an effort to cover her own expenses instead of living on the public dole?

3. The Tenant's lease was set to expire July 31, 2020 and the owner sent notice. Tenant refused to leave, despite proper notice. Now she's not paying rent, apparently because she can't afford it. Why did she ignore the termination date and stay in a rental she knows she can't afford?

4. The Tenant's rent was paid by the state for a full year...yet she had enough money to buy a 2017 Malibu?

5. Tenant continues making payments on the Malibu but not on the rent?

6. They had an agreement in December and the Landlord thought the Tenant was moving out. Isn't that an indication that they have been communicating?

From my perspective, this is a dead-beat Tenant that is milking the system. Thoughts?

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Property Manager · Denver, CO · Member since 2021 · 667 posts · 587 votes
5y

Deadbeat - yes. If she wants to pay the landlord, then why doesn't she? Actions are what matter here, not words. So many people taking advantage of the situation and then playing victim when they are called out. This whole mess has really exposed the lack of character in so many. 

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  • Rental Property Investor · Erie, PA · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    5y

    “This is her place. It’s not like I want to live there for free, but she is not communicating with me,” Patterson said.

    *rolls my eyes*

    “If I offered to pay, how am I considered a deadbeat tenant?” Patterson asked. “It’s apparent [Eccles] just wants her property back. It’s not about the money.”

    *rolls eyes*

    I get that there are always two sides to the story but Patterson is making my B.S.-meter spike. I agree with the points you mentioned. 

    And this is why I cherish all my tenants who are great and don't do shady things like this. I get that there are  some people who are unable to pay their rent as they lost their job(s) or work less hours and have less income... however others are taking advantage of the situation. 

    The government tends to fail in an epic nature when it comes to getting involved in 'helping' as they don't know when to stop 'helping' - just as they don't know how to stop taxing so they can pay for their 'helping'. 



  • Nathan GesnerBusiness Member
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    Real Estate Broker · Cody, WY · Member since 2010 · 28k+ posts · 41k+ votes
    5y
    Originally posted by @Karl B.:

    “This is her place. It’s not like I want to live there for free, but she is not communicating with me,” Patterson said.

    *rolls my eyes*

    “If I offered to pay, how am I considered a deadbeat tenant?” Patterson asked. “It’s apparent [Eccles] just wants her property back. It’s not about the money.”

    *rolls eyes*

    I get that there are always two sides to the story but Patterson is making my B.S.-meter spike. I agree with the points you mentioned. 

    And this is why I cherish all my tenants who are great and don't do shady things like this. I get that there are  some people who are unable to pay their rent as they lost their job(s) or work less hours and have less income... however others are taking advantage of the situation. 

    The government tends to fail in an epic nature when it comes to getting involved in 'helping' as they don't know when to stop 'helping' - just as they don't know how to stop taxing so they can pay for their 'helping'. 

    The average person would think the Landlord is evil. After all, the tenant wants to pay!

    Read between the lines. The lease expired July 31 and the Landlord gave the Tenant notice to vacate. The Landlord has no legal or moral obligation to permit her to stay, and why should she when the Tenant can't afford the rent? 

    Perhaps the tenant could sleep in her 2017 Chevy Malibu.

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  • Rental Property Investor · Member since 2020 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    5y

    Yes the tenant is certainly a deadbeat.  It is easy to say the landlord is making the woman homeless but why do the states get a pass, they are the ones who cut her off the gravy train.  She isn’t working so having a car should be less important than rent however she knows they will repo the landlord can’t kick her out.  She has offered to pay several times in the article which makes me wonder why she hasn’t seems simple enough unless the eviction has already started.  I will say she does have a point though that as soon as she leaves it will be next to impossible to find a place to live as she won’t pass screening.  That is a personal problem though based on life choices.  She was not working but getting unemployment and stimulus, I realize this may not be enough to pay everything and for those trying I sympathize.  If you pay what you can that is one thing, not trying is what makes you a deadbeat.  If you can’t afford your current living situation you need to move to something more affordable you are not entitled to your current standard of living.   Another side question though is how does someone with no job on govt. benefits qualify for a car loan for a newer car.  

  • Property Manager · Denver, CO · Member since 2021 · 667 posts · 587 votes
    5y

    Deadbeat - yes. If she wants to pay the landlord, then why doesn't she? Actions are what matter here, not words. So many people taking advantage of the situation and then playing victim when they are called out. This whole mess has really exposed the lack of character in so many. 

  • Rental Property Investor · Clarksville, TN · Member since 2016 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    5y

    @Nathan Gesner

    Strongly agree.

  • Banker · Saint Clair Shores, MI · Member since 2011 · 131 posts · 53 votes
    5y
    Nathan, great post. The tenant for an extra $100.00 a month should have leased a luxury car instead of a Chevy and become a true dead beat.
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