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Short terms rentals, LLCs + Deeds. Advice needed
I'm starting to rent out my granny unit as a short term rental. I have two units on the property, and live in one of them. Hello the beginnings of house hacking!
I want to buffer myself and my assets, and have been eyeing an LLC for protection. I'm reading that operating a short term rental through a LLC requires moving the deed to the LLC itself, and if not then the owners are still the holders, and liability falls on the title holders. Mortgage companies typically don't like to move title to a LLC, and I have a 30 year conventional mortgage.
Does anyone have experience with this? Will a LLC for the short term rental with the deed in my name protect me and my assets? Would defining the 'business' of the LLC make a difference, ie short term rental vs property management vs real estate rental vs etc? Does the fact that I have 2 units and live in one and rent the other sway the deed requirement?
Any insight is appreciated. Thanks in advance!
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Hey @Nina Nazarov,
I would agree with @Rachelle Rayner, as there are some steps you want to ensure you are taking prior to getting an LLC. I will dive into asset protection so you can understand the ebst practices to protecting yourself as a new investor, and at the end I also will include an option for avoiding the Due on Sale Clause in regards to a transfer to an LLC. When meeting with clients the first order is to discuss (A) their personal assets, (B) break down their current investments portfolio and other business ventures before discussing any (C) future goals. Each of these variables will dramatically change the advice for the individual asking this question. I often break it down into the "five pillars" of protecting your assets.
1st pillar is avoiding unnecessary and risky activities (don't drink and drive, insurance generally won’t cover your poor decisions) and take good care of your investments - these simple steps will help you prevent lawsuits before they even occur.
2nd pillar is a good insurance policy as that cover the majority of your exposure. However, insurance is limited because it only protects you from one type of liability: accidents/negligence. Insurance doesn’t protect you from any part of the sale or acquisition of a property (e.x. Somebody wanting to sue for you backing out of a bad deal or accusing you of selling them a property with defects like unknown termite damage). Insurance also doesn’t protect you from misunderstandings, especially those made in writing and email. What happens in these misunderstandings is that something goes wrong either in the sale or after, and then they sue you for some statement you made that they “misunderstood”. That lawsuit is a claim for fraud, and that’s what fraud typically is...a misunderstanding and someone being “injured” and wanting to hold the other responsible for it. Insurance never protects you from these kinds of claims and they happen all the time.
3rd pillar applies after you have good insurance You need to protect yourself from what insurance doesn’t cover by compartmentalizing your assets. Compartmentalization means that if something happens to one property they can't touch you or the other properties. You should use either LLC's (the old and expensive way) or a Series LLC (the new and more cost/time effective way). No matter where you live or where you own assets, I personally recommend the Series LLC to be a great tool for the individual investor who is planning to expand their operation, as it allows for you to scale infinitely for FREE- check out this article to learn more.
4th pillar is somewhat similar - you want to separate your operations from your assets. One company owns everything and does nothing (this is your SLLC a/k/a "asset holding company") and a completely separate company handles all of your operations (this is a traditional LLC a/k/a "operating company") For the operating company which serves as your face to the world and through which you do all your business, you establish a Traditional LLC to carry out the operations of your investments. The operating company takes on all of the liability that would otherwise blow back on you including: paying property management, paying contractors, collecting rent, marketing, etc.
5th pillar is owning everything anonymously. If people don't know what you own, then they are less likely to sue. People don't sue people that qualify for food stamps. This anonymity can be accomplished for free by using Trusts to own your companies as well as the assets. Trusts create this anonymity by removing your name from public record. Even if they can see you used to own a property, when properly transferred it will look like it was sold to investors. If they somehow guess you are the owner still, it doesn't matter because you are not the owner. The trust and the LLC are the owner of the asset/real estate, so even in the scenario that they guess, they guess wrong.
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A transfer to an LLC will trigger the clause and should therefore be avoided, even though banks are hesitant to ever foreclose as long as the note is being paid. Even with the note being paid, the banks will still send threatening letters. This issue can be avoided completely by transferring the property into a land trust.
While a transfer to an LLC will cause alarms at the bank and prompt them to send you a letter, a transfer to a trust will not. A transfer to a trust is exempt from due on sale violations since banks will view transfers to a trust as an estate planning tool. You should not even receive a letter from the bank.
This article can explain the general process of taking a property into your own name and transferring it into the Land Trust before assigning it to the LLC. The added benefit of this process is that you can also have your attorney sign the public records as "Nominee Trustee" before assigning yourself as the "Trustee" once the trust has been established. This means your name does not appear on public record for that property, your attorney and their address is the only thing that appears. You always have control and nobody else, not even your attorney, can manage or sell your property except for you.
If you need to prove ownership for financing or any other reason, you simply produce your company documents as well as your banking and accounting records. Since these disclosures are private, and not part of the public record, it does not violate the anonymity you’re seeking.
This isn't legal advice, just my opinion as a real estate investor. Best of luck to you moving forward!