How do I convince my mother to turn grandmas house into a duplex?

How do I convince my mother to turn grandmas house into a duplex?

Investor · San Antonio, TX · Member since 2018 · 188 posts · 54 votes

My mother took over the delinquent tax payments in order to save her childhood home for sentimental reasons. Her idea is to fix it up and live in it ONLY. I do not know why when my sister, father and I show no interest in living or moving back to our hometown. Pretty much everything in the house is broken from A to Z. It is also a bottomless pit of back taxes. She does not want to fix it up to rent it out and make money for all of us. How do I change her mind??? PLEASE HELP

In a perfect world, it is a good property to use the BRRR strategy on and generate income for all of us. It's in an older blue-collar area of my hometown with little to no crime. My hometown has a population of 35,000 with its own major employers and own unique economy.

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Hollidaysburg, PA · Member since 2015 · 327 posts · 350 votes
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@Juan David Maldonado, Sentimental value is going to be a tough one to over come, however I would run the numbers and show her the possibilities. You may need to walk her thru the entire process, but if it's worth it... maybe she'll get on your page, especially if it pays for her living standards. You may also want to try and convince her that it will still remain in the family, and that it will for the foreseeable future. I don't know that I personally would attempt this action though, but as long as you can sleep at night. Good luck!

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  • Hollidaysburg, PA · Member since 2015 · 327 posts · 350 votes
    8y

    @Juan David Maldonado, Sentimental value is going to be a tough one to over come, however I would run the numbers and show her the possibilities. You may need to walk her thru the entire process, but if it's worth it... maybe she'll get on your page, especially if it pays for her living standards. You may also want to try and convince her that it will still remain in the family, and that it will for the foreseeable future. I don't know that I personally would attempt this action though, but as long as you can sleep at night. Good luck!

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    Real Estate Broker · Cody, WY · Member since 2010 · 28k+ posts · 41k+ votes
    8y

    Put the numbers on paper. You said, "it is a bottomless pit of back taxes" and "everything in the house is broken from A to Z" which sounds like a money pit to me. How are you going to afford the back taxes and renovation so it turns into a cash-flowing property?

    Mom has a sentimental attachment. You need to show enough cash flow to overcome her emotional attachment, which may not be possible. 

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  • Member since 2016 · 13k+ posts · 12k+ votes
    8y

    Wait till she realises her mistake herself then step in to help. For sentimental reasons I would steer well clear until she is near drowning. 

    My guess is that numbers will be irrelevant until she feels the pain. Do not under any circumstances enable her. Crule to be kind when it comes to sentiment and money. They simply never mix.

  • West Lafayette, IN · Member since 2018 · 31 posts · 20 votes
    8y
    @Juan David Maldonado Maybe discuss how income generated from th property can be used to further renovate and restore her childhood home. And a duplex and always be reconverted to a single family home so the changes are not permanent.
  • Real Estate Investor · Des Moines, IA · Member since 2016 · 922 posts · 533 votes
    8y

    @Juan David Maldonado

    The years of future income are less personally attractive to someone with less life to live.

    What do you have to offer?

    Do you have experience in real estate?

    Have you run numbers on the property from an investment standpoint?

  • Investor · San Antonio, TX · Member since 2018 · 188 posts · 54 votes
    8y

    @Jim Goebel  

    I am a high school teacher with a good income. I want to finance the project one step at a time with my salary so I do not have to take on a loan to get it up and running. No major experience in real estate besides my own research and reading books. I have book smarts and street smarts. I am working on putting together a document to show my mother the numbers on the property. 

  • Investor · San Antonio, TX · Member since 2018 · 188 posts · 54 votes
    8y

    @Susan M. Mendrysa

    Thank you. Awesome advice. 

  • Investor · San Antonio, TX · Member since 2018 · 188 posts · 54 votes
    8y

    @Thomas S.

    Thank you! I understand what you mean. 

  • Investor · San Antonio, TX · Member since 2018 · 188 posts · 54 votes
    8y
  • Investor · San Antonio, TX · Member since 2018 · 188 posts · 54 votes
    8y

    @Nathan Gesner

    Thank you for your advice! 

  • Investor · United States · Member since 2015 · 415 posts · 487 votes
    8y

    Sounds like a tough sell; if she's sentimental about the house, she probably doesn't want to see it become apartments for strangers.

    I can't even convince my friends with no kids to live in duplexes... they are just too content to pay $1,500/month for the privilege of not having to hear footsteps above them every once in a while.

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