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Josh Sterling
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Josh Sterling
  • Property Manager
  • Wyandotte, MI
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Hi All,
New to this forum, but there seems to be a lot of great info on here, just what I've been looking for.

I've been investing in real estate for about 2 years now. I formed a LLC and we are up to 7 properties in Southeast Michigan. Along the way we've been able to get creative and scrape together cash, and we own 5 of the properties free & clear.
The problem I run into every time I try to grow the business is financing. I thought it would get easier as I got more experience and owned more property free and clear but I continue to get shot down by every bank in the state.

Our typical deals(and there are lots of opportunities) are along these lines:

Purchase.....25-30k
Rehab.........10k
Rent............800-900/month
Taxes..........150/month
Insurance.....50/month

I've tried to do cash out refis on the free and clear property (because its so much easier to make offers when its all cash) but I have been unsuccessful. I have been turned down for:
-Too high DTI (disallowed much of the rental income)
-Lack of seasoning on the properties
-Too small of loan amounts
-Properties held in an LLC
-No cash out refis on investment property

We have good credit and good reserves (investment accounts)

Am I approaching this wrong by trying to do cash out Refis?
Is there an easier way to secure financing for the next deal that I am just not seeing?

I welcome any suggestions.

Thank You

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Jay Miller
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Jay Miller
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I had a similar situation as you a few years ago. No bank would do the cash out refi for me either. What I have had success doing is purchasing a more expensive property and using one paid off property as collateral for the down payment. The bank I have been using will finance up to 80% of the purchase price and I can use up to 80% of appraised value on the pledged property. This works out to be 100% financing on the new deal. I do have to pay closing costs out of pocket. I use my own funds to rehab if necessary. I can get the pledged property released one I pay back the 20% of the original purchase price.

This is a small local bank and I go through the commercial loan department.

Might be worth a try. Good Luck.

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