First 4-Plex Purchase in BC Canada - Looking for Appraisal Advice

First 4-Plex Purchase in BC Canada - Looking for Appraisal Advice

Member since 2018 · 35 posts · 7 votes

Hello, 

Looking for some advice regarding a re-appraisal of a property after renovations with one of the big 5 banks in Canada. 

Here is the situation. 

We purchased a 4-plex that had 3 units completed and rented, but the 4th was only partially completed (Approx. 25% complete) and we are completing it as I type. The bank appraised this at 500K, seller was asking for the same price, which makes me believe that the appraiser was possibly influenced by the sellers price since there was no real comps to go by in the last handful of years. Once the renovations are completed and we get a tenant moved in, and lease signed the revenue will increase by approximately 37%, so I want to go back to the bank and get a new appraisal to determine a new value. 

I have read lots about a property needing to be 5 units for the banks to view them as a commercial operation, but this is always referring to the States, but I don't know if this applies to Canada, specifically BC. 

Questions:

1. does anyone have experience in doing something similar with any of the big 5 banks?

2. if so, what's a reasonable value to apply to the property if the revenues increase by 37%? I am thinking 15-20% but not sure how the bank will view this. 

I look forward to any advice or direction, 

Thanks, 

Sheldon

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  • Specialist · Mortgage Broker Canada · Member since 2015 · 316 posts · 118 votes
    8y

    Hello @Sheldon Peart  If you need financing to purchase a residential property with 5 doors, you will need to get a commercial mortgage. 

    4 key factors affect the value of your home:

    1. Location of your home
    2. Size, age, and condition of your property, including any renovations or updates
    3. The housing market
    4. The economy and interest rates

    Here are 2 ways to help you estimate the value of your home:

    Talk to real estate agents – They may estimate its value for free and should be able to tell you what other homes in your area have sold for.

    Pay an appraiser 

  • Member since 2018 · 35 posts · 7 votes
    8y

    Thanks Julie, 

    I would talk to some local real estate agents, but from my understanding the bank does not take a real estate agents opinion into consideration when they hire an appraiser to determine a value.

    Do you have experience actually negotiating with the banks on getting a reappraisal? 

    Thanks, 

    Sheldon

  • Specialist · Mortgage Broker Canada · Member since 2015 · 316 posts · 118 votes
    8y

    @Sheldon Peart The bank do not use a real estate agent's opinion of the value of the property, they require an appraisal from an independent appraiser when you are getting a mortgage. Appraisals will never come in over the agreed-to price. If you got a deal, don’t expect the bank appraisal to come in higher than what you offered.

    I'm not sure I understand your question about 'getting a reappraisal.' 

    Should you want to refinance your property after the renos, the bank will require a new appraisal. You can refi up to 80% of the new appraised value.

  • Member since 2018 · 35 posts · 7 votes
    8y

    Yes refinancing is what I am asking about. Looking to refinance after the renovations are completed and revenue is increased by 37%.

  • Specialist · Mortgage Broker Canada · Member since 2015 · 316 posts · 118 votes
    8y

    What is the term of your current mortgage and is it a fixed or variable rate? 

  • Member since 2018 · 35 posts · 7 votes
    8y

    Term is 5 years fixed rate, 30 yr amortization

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