NEED ADVICE! Tenants breaking lease 2 days before move in

NEED ADVICE! Tenants breaking lease 2 days before move in

Wichita Falls, TX · Member since 2016 · 6 posts · 1 vote

Fellow Landlords,

My tenants are trying to back out of the lease 2 days before they move in. Any advice would be great. Here's the background:

I have a 1973 SFH in Wichita Falls, TX. 4/2, 2143 sq ft on a corner lot. I am in the Air Force and was recently transferred to North Carolina. We decided to rent the house out because we've owned for 6 years and plan to return to Texas in 2 years.

We put the house on the market in late May and had a 2-year lease signed by June 7th, lease terms from 1 July 2016 - 30 June 2018, $1495/month with a $1495 security deposit. The couple paid the security deposit at the time of application, but we haven't received July's rent yet. Their credit was good, bordering on Excellent. Combined income was $95K annually. The only issue with the background check was the husband tenant had an assault charge 21 years ago, time in county jail, but no prison time.

This afternoon, my property manager called me and told me that the tenants called her today and told her that "they didn't realize their current lease wasn't up until the end of July". They are hoping that I will just cancel the lease and give them their security deposit back.

However, my PM also told me that a different realtor within the same brokerage firm received an email about midnight last night from these tenants inquiring about a different property that is only $1250/month. After my PM spoke to me about it, I told her to call the tenants and see what was going on. After a little prodding, the wife tenant stated that while she likes the house, her husband did not so he was wanting to get out of the lease and was the one inquiring about the other house. I don't know if the information about their current lease not ending until the end of July is true, but I believe it to be a lie. The reason is because at first the wife tenant tried to play it off by telling my PM "I don't know what email you're talking about, it wasn't us". But like I said, after some prodding, she admitted it was her husband that sent he email inquiring about the other house. There is already a level of dishonesty from these tenants and they haven't even moved in.

My wife and I are torn on what to do. I want to hold them to the terms of the lease until we can fill the house with other tenants, but I don't want them to go ahead and move in since we won't let them out of the lease. I would rather just do what my PM suggests and write up an agreement that they can break the lease, but it will cost them their security deposit. Financially, I can handle July's mortgage payment without them paying me July's rent, and without the security deposit, but if I don't have a rent check in August, I'll go into default on my mortgage because I have to pay for the house I'm living in in North Carolina.

Have any of you ever dealt with this? What are my options? What do you suggest we do? Let them out and keep the deposit, or hold their feet to the fire until I get a new tenant in? Like I said, I'm afraid to do the second one because of the dishonesty thus far, I don't want them to "settle" for my house and actually become my tenants for the next 2 years. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

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Realtor · Cumming, GA · Member since 2013 · 27 posts · 11 votes
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Hello, I am no expert but I would suggest on holding onto the security deposit and letting them out of the agreement with no refund. I say this because you don't want disgruntled tenants in your house destroying your property .

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  • Dick RosenPro Member
    Property Manager · Gilbert, AZ · Member since 2009 · 1k+ posts · 451 votes
    10y

    @Account Closed I firmly believe that those PM's that you just mentioned are either in the business for a very short time or the are constantly turning over clients hopefully faster than tenants. One of my new tenants just told me yesterday that she was in her last rental for 25 years and I told her that I would be happy to have her with me for another 25. And I hope to have that property owner longer than that. (hypothetically that is... I am 56 already :)

  • San Jose, CA · Member since 2015 · 4k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    10y
    Originally posted by @Dick Rosen:

    @Account Closed I firmly believe that those PM's that you just mentioned are either in the business for a very short time or the are constantly turning over clients hopefully faster than tenants. One of my new tenants just told me yesterday that she was in her last rental for 25 years and I told her that I would be happy to have her with me for another 25. And I hope to have that property owner longer than that. (hypothetically that is... I am 56 already :)

     Nope.  The PMC my daughter hired had been in business for 30 years.  I  remember thinking it was weird that there were zero reviews online about them.  And I mean zero.  All I can figure was that they paid a reputation scrubbing service to remove all reviews somehow.  Especially anywhere near the SF Bay Area, where her rental was.

    Same for me, when I hired a property management company many eons ago.  It was the local real estate office that had been in business forever.

    Unfortunately, it seems that the good, honest PMC is the rare one.  I'm sure that's you.

  • Dick RosenPro Member
    Property Manager · Gilbert, AZ · Member since 2009 · 1k+ posts · 451 votes
    10y

    @Account Closed that was a very high compliment that you assumed for me, Thank you!

  • Flipper/Rehabber · Quincy, MA · Member since 2016 · 53 posts · 35 votes
    10y
    Originally posted by @Dick Rosen:

    ... and I do not sign the lease until it's completely funded so they don't have an executed lease until I'm funded. 

    Check your state's landlord/tenant law on this point. In my state (CT), it's considered a valid contract as soon as the tenant signs and hands over the amount required to take possession. It's assumed that the landlord agrees to the terms when he gives it to the prospective tenant. It's still a good idea for the landlord to sign, but they often don't.

  • Dick RosenPro Member
    Property Manager · Gilbert, AZ · Member since 2009 · 1k+ posts · 451 votes
    10y

    @Account Closed back to my point of not signing until it's funded, the lease acts as a receipt for funds and I don't sign until funded, which means they have no signed receipt for funds until I am funded and sign the lease.  It doesn't matter if they only signed, if it's not funded it isn't a contract and it's not fully executed until I sign it.

    But I certainly don't know CT law and I won't admit to completely understanding AZ law. I can only speak to what has worked for me.

  • San Jose, CA · Member since 2015 · 4k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    10y
    Originally posted by @Dick Rosen:

    @Account Closed back to my point of not signing until it's funded, the lease acts as a receipt for funds and I don't sign until funded, which means they have no signed receipt for funds until I am funded and sign the lease.  It doesn't matter if they only signed, if it's not funded it isn't a contract and it's not fully executed until I sign it.

    But I certainly don't know CT law and I won't admit to completely understanding AZ law. I can only speak to what has worked for me.

     Well, that's actually just basic contract law, which would apply anywhere, most likely.  For a contract you need an offer, and acceptance and consideration.   The consideration can actually just be a promise to pay money.  For instance, if the contract says you both agree that the tenant will be given keys when he shows up on X date with the rent and deposit money - that's an enforceable contract.

    Your contract would have to say that there is no contract until money has been delivered, basically.  If you have the above wording, you can't back out, if the tenant shows up with money in hand, per the contract.

    And the fact that you handed them a contract and took it back with their signature - shows your intent to be bound by it.  

    So, these little tricks don't really work - unless it's big and clear in the contract that you aren't bound until you have actually received their money.

    Because, handing them the contract is the offer, they sign it and it says they promise to pay - there is the acceptance and the consideration.  That's a contract that they can enforce, if they perform their end (show up when they're supposed to with money in hand).

    I hope I'm making sense :-)

  • Dick RosenPro Member
    Property Manager · Gilbert, AZ · Member since 2009 · 1k+ posts · 451 votes
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    @Account Closed point taken but that's the way my attorney suggested doing business and since she's the one defending my lease I'm going to follow her advice. She's also the CE instructor for the other Judges so I do have a lot of confidence in what she tells me. Right or wrong, that's the way I play.

  • JD MartinBusiness Member
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    Rock Star Extraordinaire · Northeast, TN · Member since 2015 · 10k+ posts · 16k+ votes
    10y

    This is what we do as well.There is no executed lease until deposit and first month is paid in full, and I don't take partial payments. I tell everyone there is no rental without payment, and once we have accepted someone they have 72 hours to execute or we move on.

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  • San Jose, CA · Member since 2015 · 4k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    10y
    Originally posted by @Dick Rosen:

    @Account Closed point taken but that's the way my attorney suggested doing business and since she's the one defending my lease I'm going to follow her advice. She's also the CE instructor for the other Judges so I do have a lot of confidence in what she tells me. Right or wrong, that's the way I play.

     Ah, even if it's wrong.  Okay.  

    I would hope that she's smart enough to write a contract that is worded correctly.  It's amazing how many bad attorneys are out there.  Even attorneys with the specialist certification behind their names.

    Just one example: I had a worker's comp claim, and it was all over the news in CA that Schwartzenneger was changing the worker's comp laws.  I was in law school at the time, so I looked up the new laws.  When I went to see my worker's comp attorney - who had a bar association certificate as a worker's comp specialist - and tried to show him he was arguing my case incorrectly under the new law, he told me to shut up.  I fired him.

    Then, before the worker's comp judge - who specializes only in worker's comp law - I tried to argue my case on my own with the new law and he interrupted me and blurted out the old code, so I was wrong.  I said, "With respect it's this new code....."  He looked at me all baffled, opened up his new law book in front of him, read the new law and apologized to me for the fact he hadn't read the new law yet - and I won.  The attorney for the state worker's comp department who was my opponent, also had not read the new law.  These are all specialists in worker's comp law, it was all over the news that the laws had changed - and none of them looked up the new laws.  Not.  One.

    So, I no longer blindly accept or believe that just because someone has letters after their names, or are supposedly specialists, that they have actually cracked open a book or looked up a law.  Something happens in the ego department of their brains after they attain their JD's is all I can figure, that tells them they already know everything, and whatever they say or think must be right.

    Carry on, though.  Maybe she will have trained any of the judges you get in front of.

  • Insurance Agent · Member since 2015 · 191 posts · 124 votes
    10y

    It sounds like the tenant signed a year long lease. If this is the case they are technically on the hook for the entire year and just taking the security deposit should be a good compromise. However, I would urge you to get familiar with your states eviction laws. You generally have to go through legal proceedings to officially evict someone and unless they voluntarily do not move in you can be sued if you improperly evict them. 

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