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All Forum Posts by: James Wagner

James Wagner has started 2 posts and replied 6 times.

My PM is handing it, but this is my home not just an investment property so I'm as involved as I can be from half a country away. She's doing all the work, I'm just the final decision on most things. Thanks everyone for your advice. 

Fellow Landlords,

My tenants are trying to back out of the lease 2 days before they move in. Any advice would be great. Here's the background:

I have a 1973 SFH in Wichita Falls, TX. 4/2, 2143 sq ft on a corner lot. I am in the Air Force and was recently transferred to North Carolina. We decided to rent the house out because we've owned for 6 years and plan to return to Texas in 2 years.

We put the house on the market in late May and had a 2-year lease signed by June 7th, lease terms from 1 July 2016 - 30 June 2018, $1495/month with a $1495 security deposit. The couple paid the security deposit at the time of application, but we haven't received July's rent yet. Their credit was good, bordering on Excellent. Combined income was $95K annually. The only issue with the background check was the husband tenant had an assault charge 21 years ago, time in county jail, but no prison time.

This afternoon, my property manager called me and told me that the tenants called her today and told her that "they didn't realize their current lease wasn't up until the end of July". They are hoping that I will just cancel the lease and give them their security deposit back.

However, my PM also told me that a different realtor within the same brokerage firm received an email about midnight last night from these tenants inquiring about a different property that is only $1250/month. After my PM spoke to me about it, I told her to call the tenants and see what was going on. After a little prodding, the wife tenant stated that while she likes the house, her husband did not so he was wanting to get out of the lease and was the one inquiring about the other house. I don't know if the information about their current lease not ending until the end of July is true, but I believe it to be a lie. The reason is because at first the wife tenant tried to play it off by telling my PM "I don't know what email you're talking about, it wasn't us". But like I said, after some prodding, she admitted it was her husband that sent he email inquiring about the other house. There is already a level of dishonesty from these tenants and they haven't even moved in.

My wife and I are torn on what to do. I want to hold them to the terms of the lease until we can fill the house with other tenants, but I don't want them to go ahead and move in since we won't let them out of the lease. I would rather just do what my PM suggests and write up an agreement that they can break the lease, but it will cost them their security deposit. Financially, I can handle July's mortgage payment without them paying me July's rent, and without the security deposit, but if I don't have a rent check in August, I'll go into default on my mortgage because I have to pay for the house I'm living in in North Carolina.

Have any of you ever dealt with this? What are my options? What do you suggest we do? Let them out and keep the deposit, or hold their feet to the fire until I get a new tenant in? Like I said, I'm afraid to do the second one because of the dishonesty thus far, I don't want them to "settle" for my house and actually become my tenants for the next 2 years. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

Ana Lisa was recommended to me by my next door neighbor as well and I did speak to her before I left in January (family is still there until summer, finishing up the school year).  Sounds like that's definitely the route I'll go if I get a property manager since you're the second recommendation for her. 

Originally posted by @Cori Bryan:

Hey James!

I am prior military (C130 pilot) and now full time realtor/real estate investor here in WF.  I started exactly the way you did. Some people may not agree, but when it gets competitive like it is becoming here in Texas- cash is king. I worked my butt off to pay off my first rental- then stocked up that cash flow that was coming in...when the market was right- I sold it and now use all that cash to flip. I have built up enough to stagger my flips so I always have 1 or 2 going at a time. I also still own a rental here that I purchased at discount, did some renovations on it and rent it out- paid that off as well- so it is a little bonus passive income. I personally wouldn't pay a property manager in WF. You can easily landlord from afar using Old republic HW (as Hayden said) and militarybyowner.com to advertise. Just hire a realtor when its time to sell and they'll handle it all for you...

Keep squirreling that cash and reading up. Holler if you have any questions!

 I was thinking I might be able to get away with not having a property manager considering I have some close friends in the neighborhood that would keep eyes on the house everyday making sure the tenants are keeping up the yard, not throwing giant parties all the time, etc. I had Old Republic but I let it lapse a couple years ago (that was a mistake), but planned on purchasing a new warranty of its possible. That would definitely help my bottom line not hiring a property manager, however I think it would previous greater peace of mind for my wife. I'm totally convinced I can rent this out and keep a positive cashflow, and while she supports it, she definitely has her reservations, as do I, but that's why I'm on the BP forums. Thanks for your input and it's great to meet you. 

Originally posted by @Hayden Gerstner:

Hello there, James! I'm a local Realtor in Wichita, I researched your home on the mls to find comps. For the neighborhood it's in, there have only been 2 on the market with similar stats within the last year, averaging $1,575 a month. Compared that to everything in town matching your stats, it still matches up to around that amount still. I can tell you that there isn't many rentals with the same size your home has to offer. I'm not advertising my services, as I'm just an agent. But since you'll be out of town, I'd suggest looking into some property managers. Typically they run about 10% of each months rent, and sometimes take a fee of around 25%-50% of first month's rent as a finder's fee for leasing a property. Now every place is different, that's just what I've seen. If you still have a home-warranty on it, that will help if any thing were to happen. Invest in a background check program if you don't want to have any property managers. I use publicdata.com it is $35 Yearly for 700 annual look-ups. I'd also look into some reputable "handymen" here to be able to fix small repairs if any were to occur, as they are usually cheaper than calling out a company. Definitely have a through lease agreement. You don't want tenants calling you every hour of the day because a light bulb went out. That's the beauty of it, you can write whatever you want in the state of Texas and it is a legal binding agreement. Also, when screening tenants always, always, always call previous land lords. While their credit score and criminal check may be good, it doesn't say whether or not they kept things clean, were good on rent or always gave headaches. Another thing is pets! I suggest small dogs, most insurance companies want you to keep from vicious breeds anyways. I personally would never allow cats, if their urine were to get into the floors, it would be a nightmare to remove. On the upside, look for a good family that may want to stay for a few years. Having a multiple year lease is the best! Hopefully I helped. Feel free to ask any other questions you may have. I've been investing with my father in rentals for the last 4 years. We love helping out fellow investors!

 Thanks for the info Hayden. I've seen the same market trends as you when it comes to rentals like mine, especially in the West Foundation school zone. I feel like the location and the schools are my biggest selling points that will keep it from staying empty. I have pretty good equity in the house and I know if I all out I will come out ahead, but I just feel renting is the smarter financial decision at this point in time, especially with what I perceive as a rising market in WF. Great meeting you. 

Hello all. My name is James Wagner. I'm currently in the Air Force (19 years) and just got stationed in NC. I currently own a home in Wichita Falls, TX with 24 years left on my 30 year VA loan. I came across BP because I was just looking for information about renting out my current home and after reading several articles and listening to some podcasts, I'm really interested in one day taking this beyond renting out my house and making real estate my post-military career. Any advice on how to start growing this thing using my current house as my first investment property? I look forward to hearing from y'all.