Anatomy of an Eviction

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Anatomy of an Eviction

Linda WeygantPro Member
Investor and CPA · Arvada, CO · Member since 2015 · 2k+ posts · 3k+ votes

My tenants haven't paid their rent since July.  I know, I'm too soft-hearted for this business, but I'm becoming less so, trust me.  

After they broke their 5th (6th?) promise on Friday, I served them with a 3 day notice on Monday.  She sent me an email begging me to work with her, swearing that she'll pay me everything she owes me on December 1.

For those of you playing at home, that's no rent for 2 1/2 months (owing since August 1) and her proposal of another 1 1/2 months of no rent.  

I told her no.

When they moved in in July, we had set up a payment plan for their security deposit (I know...  for those of you rolling your eyes at me at home, I get it).  They paid $200.

So I made her on offer via email that if they moved out by Saturday (the 24th), and left the place in good repair and clean, I'd give her the $200 back and I wouldn't take them to court and collect the back rent.  But she needed to just leave.  (Cash for keys...)  Hated making the offer, but I know it would cost me more to do an eviction.  I told her the offer was good for 24 hours only and she needed to accept it within that 24 hours in order for me to honor it.

She called me, but I let the calls go to voice mail as I believe all communications should be documented going forward.  Her voice mails were basically her begging me to work with her.  She did not accept my offer.  I did not return her calls.

Some states have a provision for the owners of an LLC to represent the LLC in court. Others do not - the LLC must hire an attorney. I haven't been able to get a definitive answer on that for Colorado, so I called the county court office today. The clerk there seemed to think I could represent myself pro se in eviction court. When I stressed to her that it is an LLC that owns the property, she back pedaled a bit and so I still don't know.

I contacted an eviction attorney and he gave me some great advice on my lease for the next time (worth an hour of his time right there). He's going to pull down the actual statute and send it to me. If it turns out I can represent the LLC, then I'll pay the attorney for his research time and then pay him later to do a full on review of my lease - something I should have done in the beginning. If I can't represent the LLC, then I'll hire him. Either way, he gets paid.

Stay tuned, I'll fill you guys in on how this goes.

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Marcia Maynard
Investor · Vancouver, WA · Member since 2013 · 3k+ posts · 4k+ votes
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So they moved in July of this year? Haven't paid rent since paying their initial rent payment in July? You obtained only a partial security deposit? What kind of screening process did you use. Did you do a background check prior to offering to rent to them? Have they played this game before? Are you new to landlording?

About communicating by email... are you sure she received the email with your offer? Did she reference your email and your offer in her telephone call to you? Why wouldn't you respond to her, at least to let her know you received her phone call and to reiterate your position?

By all means, hire a qualified attorney who specializes in landlord-tenant law to do the entire eviction process for you. Watch on the sidelines and learn how it's done. Regardless if you rented the premises in the name of an LLC or not, it doesn't sound wise to do this one on your own. Could be a professional tenant and/or a tenant who will run to get representation from legal aid.

If they don't accept your offer by the end of today, will you file for unlawful detainer with the court tomorrow (Friday)? If they accept your offer and don't move-out over the weekend, will you file for unlawful detainer with the court on Monday? 

Then what? What will you do to protect your interests and your property from damages in the meantime? If the tenant is responsible for paying utilities, check to see if they are current with their utility bills. Do a periodic inspection of the premises to see if they are in compliance with other aspects of the rental agreement. Serve a legal notice to enter and bring someone with you as a witness. Document your findings with photos and in writing. When things are going down, watch your property like a hawk.

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  • Linda WeygantPro Member
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    Investor and CPA · Arvada, CO · Member since 2015 · 2k+ posts · 3k+ votes
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    In the past 36 hours, I've received more email from the sisters than I have over the prior 3 months.  They are letting me know that they will try to be out by the 22nd, but it could be longer, maybe over the long Thanksgiving weekend.

    Sounds like they are unclear on the concept of what an eviction is.

    They have also asked me to give them a good reference.  I wrote a very long and ranty email which I did not send.  The emotional part of me feels better after writing such a thing.  The logical part of me knows better than to actually send it.  Part of it was wondering if they are actually women as they clearly have the biggest cojones I have ever heard of.

    Going back to court in the morning to file the Writ of Restitution and schedule with the sheriff.  Am still scared to death that they will trash the place on their way out, but relatively certain they have not done so yet since they think they could still be there for another week or so.

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  • Linda WeygantPro Member
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    Investor and CPA · Arvada, CO · Member since 2015 · 2k+ posts · 3k+ votes
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    Got the Writ of Restitution issued on Wednesday with no problems.  Took it to the sheriff's office where the clerk told me I'd get a call from a deputy.

    Got a call from the sheriff's office on Thursday. They are very backlogged right now and the earliest they can do the eviction is December 2. Talked to the security company for the HOA to ask if they had any special policies or procedures. They said to just give them about a 48 hour notice for the day so that when people start to complain about a pile of stuff on the curb, they can inform folks that it's an eviction. In their experience, pretty much everything is usually then gone within 24 hours as the owners move what they can, but the neighbors take the rest.

    I feel bad about that and I'm not sure how to reconcile that with the reality that this is all a result of choices they have made.  I'm not responsible for this outcome.

    Received an email from one of the sisters begging me to give them a good reference.  She said that they've got a potential landlord with whom they have been honest about the situation they are in.  This guy will rent to them if they can show him a letter from me that I agree to a payment plan for the back rent.

    So I got a promissory note form from online and filled it out.  I sent it to them to sign and get notarized and send back to me.  Once they've done that, I'll sign it and get them a copy back to give to the new landlord.  I made sure it is assignable.  Maybe I can take it to one of those places that will give you pennies on the dollar for such things.  It'd be pennies more than what I'm expecting now.  The sisters claim they have signed it and it is in the mail to me now, so we'll see.

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  • Dawn AnastasiPro Member
    Rental Property Investor · Milwaukee, WI · Member since 2013 · 6k+ posts · 4k+ votes
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    Originally posted by @Linda Weygant:

    They have also asked me to give them a good reference.  I wrote a very long and ranty email which I did not send.  The emotional part of me feels better after writing such a thing.  The logical part of me knows better than to actually send it.  Part of it was wondering if they are actually women as they clearly have the biggest cojones I have ever heard of.

    I had the inherited tenant at one of the properties I manage who was getting evicted ask me if I had any other places to rent.  Like, really?  You want me to rent to you again when you're getting evicted???  Some people are just clueless!  It's a good thing you wrote it to get it off your mind, but a better thing not to send it.  Separate emotions from business.

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  • Mike Wood
    Developer · New Orleans, LA · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 898 votes
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    @Linda Weygant Sorry it takes the sheriff so long to actually evict.  But the end is in sight.

    I personally would not recommend any tenant that was being evicted.  Just think about how you would feel if an ex landlord did the same thing for a prospective tenant that you were looking into?  I would play nice with the tenants until they are out, lie if you have to.  The more they think you may help them, the better chance they will not destroy the place. 

    I also agree with @Dawn Anastasi, we as landlords needs to separate emotions from business. Remember that our bills dont care about the tenant problems, we still have to pay them.  Your tenants knew exactly what they had to do to keep the unit, they failed you, not the other way around.  

    Good luck. Hopefully they move out before Dec. 2.  Otherwise, be ready with some help to remove their belonging and lock them out (after the sheriff removes them).

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  • Jeff B.
    Buy & Hold Owner · Redlands, CA · Member since 2015 · 5k+ posts · 2k+ votes
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    @Nicole A.

    1. In your county/state, can you accept partial payments and still continue with the eviction process until it's all paid?

    Not in Calif. If you do, your eviction will be thrown-out.  Each jurisdiction has variations on the "court process", but hold a lot of law in common.

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  • Marcia Maynard
    Investor · Vancouver, WA · Member since 2013 · 3k+ posts · 4k+ votes
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    Originally posted by @Linda Weygant:

    @Marcia Maynard - I'm not new to landlording, but I broke every rule in the book on this one.  These are two sisters who I did a thorough background check on.  Crappy credit, short term jobs - the whole nine yards.  But one of them pulled that "I'm trying to leave an abusive relationship" story, and I melted.  Yep - made a totally emotional decision.  Don't get me wrong - I'm not whining about this situation.  I put myself in it and I went in with eyes wide open.  You won't see me posting about how I got taken advantage of or how I didn't have systems in place or even how the system failed me.  This is my mistake, pure and simple.  I let my heart make a decision that I should have left to my head.

    Thank you for your candidness.  You are helping countless others by posting this experience. My husband and I often will say, after doing something that backfires, "I made a mistake once." :-)   We've had three evictions in 20 years in the business (16 rental units). Each time, when I reviewed the tenant file, I found red flags that should have stopped us from renting in the first place and/or a procedure that we failed to do and/or a tenant story that I should never have believed. I sincerely wish you a good outcome and happy holidays. I'll be following this thread and plan to celebrate with you when this is over!

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  • Linda WeygantPro Member
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    Investor and CPA · Arvada, CO · Member since 2015 · 2k+ posts · 3k+ votes
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    Thanks @Marcia Maynard.

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  • Dale Shin
    Real Estate Agent · Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2014 · 80 posts · 20 votes
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    Hi Linda,

    Thanks for posting, what an ordeal!  I'm glad your problem will go away, albeit in a few more weeks.  That's actually quite nice of you to do the promissory note thing, not sure if the tenants will keep to it?

    In any case, I did want to offer that for other landlords who call asking for a tenant reference, I ask that they only ask me yes or no questions so i don't ramble on about the tenant and get myself in trouble.  So if they can only ask yes or no questions, it comes down to, "have they paid on time?"  "did they follow all the rules?"  etc.  Since these answers would be based on fact it should limit your liability.  

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  • Bill S.Pro Member
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    Rental Property Investor · Denver, CO · Member since 2013 · 4k+ posts · 2k+ votes
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    @Linda Weygant you need to get on a moving company secured for the set out NOW. They are slammed at the beginning of the month. In Denver, you have two hours to move everything in the unit to the curb. They recommend 2 people for every bedroom in the unit. You have to use hired help, you cannot do it yourself. You cannot touch their personal belongings. The moving companies require that you pre-pay part of it as well. Let them know the situation. Better to reserve and prepay. You can always cancel if the sisters find a way to move out before the set out date.

    If you are not prepared, the sheriff will make you wait for another 2 weeks to get back on their schedule. Having to reschedule is much more expensive than hiring a moving company and having to cancel if by some miracle they get their poop in a heap.

    PS absolutely would not give them a good reference. They have knowingly abused you as a person and taken advantage of you. Don't enable them to do that again to someone else with your name on it. 

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  • Darlena Jones
    Strafford, MO · Member since 2015 · 181 posts · 61 votes
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    I know this has been a horrible experience but I appreciate that you documented it so well for folks like me who have yet to go through the eviction process.  Best of luck to you.

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  • Ryan Ford
    Redmond, OR · Member since 2015 · 11 posts · 0 votes
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    You sound like a super nice person and this clown put you in a bad spot. I have had to learn lessons in business and it normally cost me money, but I learn after that. Now you see the red flags about paying out the security deposit.

    I guess the lesson here is to screen better. Ask to see 3-4 months current bank records. Not to mention: job reference, credit check, criminal check and a large security deposit. A guy I know who rents homes has things they must check off or he won't rent. You see, you would have been better off being vacant a little longer than dealing with this mess.

    I am just getting started in this, but I have read a lot on this and talked to some veteran landlords. The best piece of advice I have heard is as follows: Never let them know you actually own the property. 

    Set yourself up as "ABC Property Management" or whatever. Yes, I am suggesting you fib a little. Put your actual property in an LLC. Tell them you are hired by the LLC to manage properties and you must enforce the contract. That makes it look like you are just doing your job. No negotiations.. just the language of the contract. They can sing sob stories until the cows come home and it won't matter.

    I'm sorry you had to go through all this. Some people just suck.

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  • Linda WeygantPro Member
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    Investor and CPA · Arvada, CO · Member since 2015 · 2k+ posts · 3k+ votes
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    Originally posted by @Bill S.:

    @Linda Weygant you need to get on a moving company secured for the set out NOW. They are slammed at the beginning of the month. In Denver, you have two hours to move everything in the unit to the curb. They recommend 2 people for every bedroom in the unit. You have to use hired help, you cannot do it yourself. You cannot touch their personal belongings. The moving companies require that you pre-pay part of it as well. Let them know the situation. Better to reserve and prepay. You can always cancel if the sisters find a way to move out before the set out date.

    If you are not prepared, the sheriff will make you wait for another 2 weeks to get back on their schedule. Having to reschedule is much more expensive than hiring a moving company and having to cancel if by some miracle they get their poop in a heap.

    PS absolutely would not give them a good reference. They have knowingly abused you as a person and taken advantage of you. Don't enable them to do that again to someone else with your name on it. 

     Thanks Bill!  The sheriff will actually only be there an hour and I was told to have 8 people there and I need to provide boxes and big black trash bags.  I've started looking for a moving company, but I will approach it with greater urgency tomorrow.

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  • Marcia Maynard
    Investor · Vancouver, WA · Member since 2013 · 3k+ posts · 4k+ votes
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    Originally posted by @Ryan Ford:

    You sound like a super nice person and this clown put you in a bad spot. I have had to learn lessons in business and it normally cost me money, but I learn after that. Now you see the red flags about paying out the security deposit.

    I guess the lesson here is to screen better. Ask to see 3-4 months current bank records. Not to mention: job reference, credit check, criminal check and a large security deposit. A guy I know who rents homes has things they must check off or he won't rent. You see, you would have been better off being vacant a little longer than dealing with this mess.

    I am just getting started in this, but I have read a lot on this and talked to some veteran landlords. The best piece of advice I have heard is as follows: Never let them know you actually own the property. 

    Set yourself up as "ABC Property Management" or whatever. Yes, I am suggesting you fib a little. Put your actual property in an LLC. Tell them you are hired by the LLC to manage properties and you must enforce the contract. That makes it look like you are just doing your job. No negotiations.. just the language of the contract. They can sing sob stories until the cows come home and it won't matter.

    I'm sorry you had to go through all this. Some people just suck.

    As a 20 year veteran in the residential rental housing business, I disagree with your "best piece of advice". We are proud to own and manage our properties. No need to fib. In fact being open and honest in communications with tenants shows respect. Our tenants know we are the property owners. It is easy to find this out by public property records too. Our state even requires that we disclose in the rental agreement the address where a tenant can find us if they needed to serve us with a legal notice of some kind. Our LLC is also registered with the state, so ownership of that could be verified by public record too.

    A better approach is to be honest. Landlord with integrity. Establish an effective tenant screening method and follow it, keep communications open, use a well written rental agreement, monitor tenant compliance to the rental agreement, and enforce the contract. It is possible to be firm, fair and friendly. Some extenuating circumstances may warrant exercising a bit of flexibility too and negotiating can result in a win-win.  There is an art to this business, especially in light that we are dealing with a variety of people with various mentalities. 

    Also, we need to be kind to ourselves, as we are fallible too. The OP understands this. She knew what to do from the beginning, but miscalculated what her tenants would do and didn't react soon enough. Now she is picking up the pieces and is gracious enough to share with others what she has learned.

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  • Ryan Ford
    Redmond, OR · Member since 2015 · 11 posts · 0 votes
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    Originally posted by @Marcia Maynard:
    Originally posted by @Ryan Ford:

    You sound like a super nice person and this clown put you in a bad spot. I have had to learn lessons in business and it normally cost me money, but I learn after that. Now you see the red flags about paying out the security deposit.

    I guess the lesson here is to screen better. Ask to see 3-4 months current bank records. Not to mention: job reference, credit check, criminal check and a large security deposit. A guy I know who rents homes has things they must check off or he won't rent. You see, you would have been better off being vacant a little longer than dealing with this mess.

    I am just getting started in this, but I have read a lot on this and talked to some veteran landlords. The best piece of advice I have heard is as follows: Never let them know you actually own the property. 

    Set yourself up as "ABC Property Management" or whatever. Yes, I am suggesting you fib a little. Put your actual property in an LLC. Tell them you are hired by the LLC to manage properties and you must enforce the contract. That makes it look like you are just doing your job. No negotiations.. just the language of the contract. They can sing sob stories until the cows come home and it won't matter.

    I'm sorry you had to go through all this. Some people just suck.

    As a 20 year veteran in the residential rental housing business, I disagree with your "best piece of advice". We are proud to own and manage our properties. No need to fib. In fact being open and honest in communications with tenants shows respect. Our tenants know we are the property owners. It is easy to find this out by public property records too. Our state even requires that we disclose in the rental agreement the address where a tenant can find us if they needed to serve us with a legal notice of some kind. Our LLC is also registered with the state, so ownership of that could be verified by public record too.

    A better approach is to be honest. Landlord with integrity. Establish an effective tenant screening method and follow it, keep communications open, use a well written rental agreement, monitor tenant compliance to the rental agreement, and enforce the contract. It is possible to be firm, fair and friendly. Some extenuating circumstances may warrant exercising a bit of flexibility too and negotiating can result in a win-win.  There is an art to this business, especially in light that we are dealing with a variety of people with various mentalities. 

    Also, we need to be kind to ourselves, as we are fallible too. The OP understands this. She knew what to do from the beginning, but miscalculated what her tenants would do and didn't react soon enough. Now she is picking up the pieces and is gracious enough to share with others what she has learned.

    I am new to this and don't have all your experience, but even the book the ABC's of real estate state to not budge for any sob story. It makes great sense to me. You work with someone once it opens the door for more stuff in the future. Everyone has their own style, but I feel in many cases females are more likely to display empathy for a tenant.

    To me, this is a business deal. I am a very logical person. If you don't honor your contract, a lack of planning on your part doesn't mean I will concede contractual language.

    If someone knows you own these rent houses they realize you could work with them. If you work for ABC company you will be viewed as a corporate drone doing your job. 

    You see, you can articulate that you have no flexibility or vested interest. I still think it is the best advice I have received and the guy that gave it to me is a millionaire with many years in the business. Again, everyone has their own style and I am subscribing to his. 

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  • Linda WeygantPro Member
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    Investor and CPA · Arvada, CO · Member since 2015 · 2k+ posts · 3k+ votes
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    In the mail today was an envelope from the court.  Nearly had a panic attack, but opened it anyway.  As I suspected, inside was a motion from the tenants to set aside the default judgment.  Their reasoning for the request was:

    1.  They were only 5 minutes late for the trial.

    2.  One sister couldn't pay rent because she had time off work due to a surgery.   (She had surgery around November 10 to correct her sinurses brought about by multiple broken noses over the years given to her by the ex-husband she told me she was trying to get away from.  Doesn't really excuse non payment for August, September and October.)

    3.  Claim that my lease is invalid (but don't say why or which parts).

    The court responded:

    The Court has reviewed the motion from the Defendants. First, the first paragraph is not truthful. The court was in session and the defendants did not appear until 945 am. (15 minutes late). Second, the basis for the action is non-payment of rent. The Court does not find that facially the legal defense stated is defense to this action. Court denies motion.

    So hey - some justice for our team!

    The sisters claim they will be moved out today and I have an appointment to go over and inspect at 8:00 tonight and change the locks. Keep your fingers crossed that this time they are telling the truth.

    With any luck, I'll be able to get better tenants in by the first of the year. I would hope somebody would move in mid-December, but nobody moves right before Christmas who doesn't have to.

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  • Linda WeygantPro Member
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    Investor and CPA · Arvada, CO · Member since 2015 · 2k+ posts · 3k+ votes
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    Well, now I'm %^^&*&*( LIVID!

    Went over last night at 8:00 as promised.  They still had a few things there, but were clearly moving out.  Only one sister was there and when she begged me for another day, I just turned around and walked out and didn't quite slam the door, but closed it firmly.  She then texted me and said I could come over at 8:30 this morning.

    Mark and I went over.  Place was empty and actually relatively clean.  Changed the locks and left and came home and started cooking Thanksgiving dinner.  Just got this email from Sister 2:

    I see that your trying to man handle my sister, actually we need to talk in person about our arrangements. She told me your attitude was terrible you lost the check I was going to give you because of your temperament and you need to realize we gave you that apartment early and cleaned much of it, it was because of your temperament that it wasn't cleaned to MY satisfaction. So you need to check yourself and your attitude.

    We did as you asked and we are going to have the day off. Now, if you want the money, it will be on our terms. Not yours, you chose to evict. You are the one that chose to be in that frame of mind. You ruined everything. I guess you should think before you act. You need to be respectful if you want this arrangement.

    I was trying to make peace. Now, my sister and I will meet you in a public place to give you the promissory notes and make other arrangements. If you dare try to give us a bad reference I will sue!

    I pretty much exploded and then got the lecture from Mark to not take this personally.  Thank goodness that on Thanksgiving, it's socially acceptable for the cook to drink a bunch of wine while cooking.

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  • Cindy Meyer
    Investor · Bastrop, TX · Member since 2015 · 53 posts · 28 votes
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    Oh WOW @Linda Weygant!  Big gold star to your husband for talking you through it AND you for listening to him.  Knowing everything you have been through, reading that email made my head explode.  Can't even imagine how I would react if it was directed at me.

    Does make you wonder what kind of parents could create such evil spawn.

    Hang in there!

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  • Cashmere Robinson
    Wholesaler · Bronx, NY · Member since 2015 · 46 posts · 11 votes
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    @Linda Weygant I don't see your update after 15th. Hope things got settled ultimately. Please do let us know as I am taking your experience as a case study, lots of things to learn from all the members who posted. 

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  • Patrick Connell
    REALTOR® · Bastrop, TX · Member since 2013 · 324 posts · 191 votes
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    The best part about this is that your silence is your best action and also the worst thing you can do to them.
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  • Linda WeygantPro Member
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    Investor and CPA · Arvada, CO · Member since 2015 · 2k+ posts · 3k+ votes
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    Originally posted by @Patrick Connell:

    The best part about this is that your silence is your best action and also the worst thing you can do to them.

    Oh for sure.  One thing I learned back when I worked with a very toxic team mate who behaved similarly to this woman is that not engaging with this type of person is the thing that infuriates them most.  My team mate would say the most outlandish things in email, trying to get me to fight with her so she could start drama in the group.  

    I dropped a message to a gossip in the group that I had set up rule in my email to automatically sweep any email from her into my trash.  This infuriated the team mate that I wasn't reading ANY of her email, so she went to our boss and told her that I was trashing all email from her without reading it and how disrespectful that was and that she sent me important email all the time and I was being petty.

    Boss calls me into the office asking if it's true.  

    I say no and then show the boss all the email this woman had sent to me.  Toxic team mate is put on a performance plan and then fired within 90 days.

    Haven't quite figured out if or how to turn this situation around.  I suspect the right answer is to actually set up a rule to send everything to the trash this time as I no longer need anything from these sisters.  I never thought I was going to get any back rent from them and this email just sets her up to feel justified in not signing the promissory note or paying the rent, so I'm technically no worse off than I was 3 weeks ago.

    The important thing is that I now have my condo back.  I've got it listed for rent and I'm ready to move forward with my life and not think about these women ever again, other than as a learning experience.

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  • Marcia Maynard
    Investor · Vancouver, WA · Member since 2013 · 3k+ posts · 4k+ votes
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    @Linda Weygant Thanks for the update. Interesting to read how the court handled this. Great to know you got the condo back before the end of the holiday weekend and that it was not seriously damaged. That's a win. Mark was right about the email and I'm sure the wine helped too. :-)

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  • Adrian Mata
    Lacey, WA · Member since 2011 · 48 posts · 8 votes
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    I wish I had stumbled on a thread like this before. It totally captures the kinds of things you're going to have to deal with. I have had to deal with these issues recently.

    The truth is that a person will do anything they have to to stay off the street. Sometimes they're in a bad situation (job loss, injury, whatever) and sometimes they're just being dishonest. I found that getting upset won't help the situation at all and just make things worse. The best course of action is to start the legal process as soon as you can so you can get your place back as soon as it's possible. If they can legitimately find a way to pay, they will pay.

    I think there's something to be said about options and just how people work. If they can't negotiate with Verizon for their phone bill then they won't. This isn't an option to utilize for them. If they feel that they can negotiate with you about their rent then why wouldn't they? They'll see you as the slack in their financial life and they'll take advantage of it. If they can hold you off then why wouldn't they do that rather then deprive themselves or ask a family member for money?

    The way they'll see it is that people can be negotiated with but companies won't be. If you think about it, in our (USA) culture, you "haggle" or negotiate with vendors at flea markets and garage sales but you don't do that at Walmart or Target. It works the same way. Some people set up a PM company or some people are just stern about their rules. Either way they don't get lax because it just leads to trouble. I have been burnt enough and I'm done "working with" people unless they needed like 2 extra weeks (one paycheck).

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  • Linda WeygantPro Member
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    Investor and CPA · Arvada, CO · Member since 2015 · 2k+ posts · 3k+ votes
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    Went out of town for Christmas.  When I came back to a box full of mail... Lo and Behold, there was a check for $208.33 from Sister 2.

    Took it to HER bank to cash it...

    Bouncy, bouncy, bouncy....  <eyeroll>

    I have found out where she works though and am considering going down the collections path.  Part of me just wants to be done with it.  

    A new tenant moved in last week.  Full security deposit, full month's rent.  Peace at last.

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