Rental and rent payment assurance

Rental and rent payment assurance

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Hello everyone. 

Here to learn more from other landlords and property managers. I have questions regarding rental payments/income protection and making sure an investment doesn’t become a loss. 

So I manage about 8 properties. Some are my own, a few from family members including parents. So far we’ve never had any issues with tenants not paying rent with the screening and leases we use, although only one tenant did take advantage of not paying rent during NJs COVID rent moratorium but we know of many landlords that got affected by this with tenants that could pay rent that didn’t. We’ve always had our tenants pay on time and not miss a payment.

I’ve heard of landlord stories where there are profesional tenants that cause mayhem whether destroying the property or not paying rent only for the landlord to have to be in the negative after having to hire an attorney, filling an eviction, etc. all your hard earned rental income goes to the fire.

I’m currently dealing with a tenant that although we screened the tenant properly; scores in the 700s, no issue with credit reports, and did pay rent on time thay stopped paying her rent on faulty mold claims. It’s already costed us 3 months rent, and legal expense and we’re hoping for her to move out soon. I don’t want to get into the details (that’s another post) but we know she is causing us problems as a form of retaliation. 

I’m wanting to know as a landlord how to better protect yourself and your investment being that there really is no gain in a rental property unless the rent payment is received and you don’t have malicious tenants try to avoid paying rent, or affect you in a way to rob you from that income like in faulty allegations or habitability issues that then need an attorney or going to court.

I have heard of wise landlords using a guarantor service that pays the rent if the tenant stops paying for whatever reason.  Just like a homeowners insurance where they have their own attorney to defend against litigation, this rent guarantee insurance has their own and takes care of getting the money back on their end.

Another option I was seeing that as a landlord you could also pay for a service to report tenant payment history which seems to do the trick to even those tenants with great scores that try to find a way to avoid paying rent or cause issues that way.   

Has anyone used these types of services and what are some ways to protect oneself from issues like this since all problems have solutions but in our industry it seems in order to solve a problem it costs thousands of dollars of either unpaid rent or attorneys costs and more so if you own properties in states like NY or NJ where the laws and judges are more tenant friendly.  

I truly think as landlords we need to help each other bring forth an industry that’s respected like the credit card and finance industry where if someone does not pay for services rendered then they suffer the consequences. If credit reporting is one way to do it that might be one option to look into.

Thank you

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Bjorn AhlbladPro Member
Investor · Shelton, WA · Member since 2017 · 6k+ posts · 6k+ votes
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@Rafael Alonso welcome to BP! Proper screening is pretty much the most important job a LL gets to do. We always make sure we are indeed talking to a current employer or previous LL by checking the phone number ourselves rather than just relying on what we are given. Every step in our process is designed to eliminate applicants. 

I do not think we will ever get to experience the reporting experience enjoyed by financial institutions. In fact it is going the other way; there is active talk about doing away with credit checking and many places you cannot do background checks. Oakland Ca being one for sure. 

Our LL association lobbies Wa politicians for greater protections for LL and sometimes they win. It is an uphill battle in Blue states. Fortunately the vast majority of tenants know they have to pay rent. Learn to recognize the signs those that do not. All the best!

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  • Bjorn AhlbladPro Member
    Investor · Shelton, WA · Member since 2017 · 6k+ posts · 6k+ votes
    3y

    @Rafael Alonso welcome to BP! Proper screening is pretty much the most important job a LL gets to do. We always make sure we are indeed talking to a current employer or previous LL by checking the phone number ourselves rather than just relying on what we are given. Every step in our process is designed to eliminate applicants. 

    I do not think we will ever get to experience the reporting experience enjoyed by financial institutions. In fact it is going the other way; there is active talk about doing away with credit checking and many places you cannot do background checks. Oakland Ca being one for sure. 

    Our LL association lobbies Wa politicians for greater protections for LL and sometimes they win. It is an uphill battle in Blue states. Fortunately the vast majority of tenants know they have to pay rent. Learn to recognize the signs those that do not. All the best!

  • Nathan GesnerBusiness Member
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    Real Estate Broker · Cody, WY · Member since 2010 · 28k+ posts · 41k+ votes
    3y
    Quote from @Rafael Alonso:

    1. Invest in a state that has fair Landlord-Tenant laws and courts that aren't backlogged.

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    If a Tenant claims mold, you need to know enough about mold and how to confirm/deny the claim. You should know how to respond, how to remedy the situation, how to give the tenant options, etc. You should also know what is required before the Tenant can withhold rent and be prepared to start eviction if they break those rules.

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  • Will FraserPro Member
    Real Estate Broker · Salt Lake City & Oklahoma City · Member since 2018 · 3k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    3y

    Great thoughts from Nathan and Bjorn here!

    I'll add that you can implement some tools like a Resident Benefit Package that contains credit reporting to all three bureaus OR if you use one of the solid property management software solutions out there Experian's RentBureau may be able to automatically read payment data from your PMS.  The downside to this being that it only reports to Experian and not the others, but the upside is that it is $free.99

  • Drew SygitBusiness Member
    Property Manager · Royal Oak, MI · Member since 2012 · 12k+ posts · 9k+ votes
    3y

    @Rafael Alonso SureInvestor offers a product to guarantee rent, but I don't think they offer to DIY landlords.

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