Yay or Nay? - accepting 12 months of rent up front?

Yay or Nay? - accepting 12 months of rent up front?

Member since 2019 · 16 posts · 1 vote

Story: Applicant just sold their home and needs a place to live quickly. Offering to pay 12 months rent up front. Inventory in my market is limited so I believe the offer to pay up front is to ensure a strong application. 

Question: If the background and credit check for an applicant comes back strong (credit, employment, background) - would you accept 12 months rent up front?

Please throw all the flags in my direction, no matter how basic. This is my second rental and I'm running into a lot of scenarios for the first time.

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Member since 2022 · 23 posts · 13 votes
4y

Hey there! My experience this is a bad idea. When you collect rent it makes it very difficult to evict a tenant if the need arises. 

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  • Member since 2022 · 23 posts · 13 votes
    4y

    Hey there! My experience this is a bad idea. When you collect rent it makes it very difficult to evict a tenant if the need arises. 

  • Specialist · Easton, PA · Member since 2018 · 1k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    4y

    Yup, red flags.  I’d much rather a strong candidate show me a bank statement with a ton of money in it. If they pass all your qualifications, sure let them pay 2 mos up front if they need to sweeten the deal for you but I wouldn’t take 12 mos.  And some states it’s illegal anyway. 

  • Bruce WoodruffPro Member
    Contractor/Investor/Consultant · San Diego / Phoenix · Member since 2021 · 12k+ posts · 15k+ votes
    4y

    No, never. Too much leverage on their side that way.

  • Helen, GA · Member since 2015 · 96 posts · 68 votes
    4y

    Dig deeper.

    Whenever someone offers a lot up front and "needs to move immediately" there is almost always something behind the curtains. 

    I've fallen for this many times. 

    Of course judge the situation, though. 

  • Investor · Houston, TX · Member since 2019 · 3 posts · 1 vote
    4y

    Hi. I did it. Tenant didn't have much credit history, but all other boxes checked good and I trusted the realtor. No issues for the past 8 months, he's a working guy.

  • Nathan GesnerBusiness Member
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    Real Estate Broker · Cody, WY · Member since 2010 · 28k+ posts · 41k+ votes
    4y
    Quote from @Jordan Mandel:

    Story: Applicant just sold their home and needs a place to live quickly. Offering to pay 12 months rent up front. Inventory in my market is limited so I believe the offer to pay up front is to ensure a strong application. 

    Question: If the background and credit check for an applicant comes back strong (credit, employment, background) - would you accept 12 months rent up front?

    Please throw all the flags in my direction, no matter how basic. This is my second rental and I'm running into a lot of scenarios for the first time.


    Red flags: they are hoping you'll ignore any red flags and pick them just because they waved cash in your face, they'll ask for a discount since they're paying in advance, or they'll try to leverage it against you in the future.

    If you screen them normally and they meet all your qualifications, there's nothing wrong with accepting the rent in advance. I have an older man that pays his full year in advance and has done so for 10+ years.

    Keep one thing in mind: just because the money is in your hand doesn't mean you can spend it. The money is not earned until it's applied to a rent charge, which means you still earn it one month at a time. All excess funds should be held in your account and applied each month, then it becomes yours. If the tenant breaks their lease in four months, you'll have to refund any moneys owed back to them.

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  • Property Manager · TX · Member since 2019 · 327 posts · 69 votes
    4y

    I would.  Yesterday I just had a couple moving out whose rent was paid a whole year up front.  They moved here a year ago and the husband is a ranch manager, the wife is a school teacher.  The wife's cousin is a pharmacist and owns a 69 acres ranch so they were moving here in order for the husband to manage that ranch.  The pharmacist/cousin/boss paid for this couple's rent, a whole year up front.  The couple themselves passed all checks.  Extremely nice couple.  No issues whatesoever from them.  At the beginning a raccoon got into the attic and he bought the trap, set up the trap, caught and released the animal, then sealed the entrance for me, all at no cost.  The house is spotless when they moved out yesterday.  I really like them and wish them the best.

  • Rental Property Investor · Douglas County, MO · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    4y
    Quote from @Nathan Gesner:

    Keep one thing in mind: just because the money is in your hand doesn't mean you can spend it. The money is not earned until it's applied to a rent charge, which means you still earn it one month at a time. All excess funds should be held in your account and applied each month, then it becomes yours. If the tenant breaks their lease in four months, you'll have to refund any moneys owed back to them.


    I've heard this before, and I'm curious. Is there a law that says you cannot have a yearly lease? Specifically, that the unit is leased by the year, not the month, with rent due up front? You can rent places by the day or the week, and I've heard of 99 year leases, so why not 1 year? 

  • South Holland, IL · Member since 2017 · 376 posts · 432 votes
    4y

    @Jordan Mandel

    Absolutely NOT! In my experience when people pay you up front in their opinion they OWN you. Anytime thereis a problem and it’s not remedied quickly enough they will throw that ‘I paid you $36K!’ in your face. Plus it’s harder to evict if they turn out to be a problem tenant. Having the tenant pay monthly gives you some power over the landlord/tenant relationship. I prefer month to month if I can get it.

  • Rental Property Investor · Lehigh Valley, PA · Member since 2017 · 200 posts · 191 votes
    4y

    Did you ask why he's offering it?  I've offered six months up front because I really wanted a place.

    Do take it if you could use it for needed upgrades/repairs.

    Do take it if you are low in reserves.

    Do take if you keep your books tight.  

    Possible eviction should never enter the calculation here.  If eviction is in question don't take any rent and choose another candidate.  I'd rather have rent surplus than rent deficit from a tenant I'm evicting. But again, if you're thinking eviction then this is not the tenant for you. 

  • Bruce WoodruffPro Member
    Contractor/Investor/Consultant · San Diego / Phoenix · Member since 2021 · 12k+ posts · 15k+ votes
    4y
    Quote from @Michael Deering:

    Do take it if you could use it for needed upgrades/repairs.

    But you can't use it until you earn it, so you'd have to save it up, which is really just like getting it in a normal way....

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