How To Prevent Adverse Possession Claim

How To Prevent Adverse Possession Claim

Williamsburg, VA · Member since 2014 · 28 posts · 2 votes

We bought a SFR on .6 acre. From the previous owner we obtained a plat that is quite detailed but does not seem to have been recorded as when I went to the county records office there was no plat found recorded for our lot nor for any of the neighbor's lots, although we did find one for the entire neighborhood development that seems to corroborate the accuracy of our plat.

Our plat shows the upper corner of our chain link fence, near the house, on the lot line, but shows that the straight fence angles inward such that the back fence post down by the creek (back lot line) is some 19.6' in from the actual property line (a pleasant surprise for us). The fence gives the appearance that our lot is much narrower in the rear than the plat indicates, and in fact our neighbor on that side has been using a grassy flat spot at the bottom of that otherwise lightly wooded portion, on our property, to stack his branches, leaves and other lawn debris for many years.

Especially given the position of the fence, and that we, and I guess they, believed it to be their property and not ours, this seem to constitute hostile, actual, open, notorious possession and exclusive and continuous use of the property by them. And I understand that if a fence without a gate is in place that this somewhat legally certifies that we had no intention of ever using the property.

As it happens, that neighbor received his deed and moved into his property 27 May 2004, or about 14.89 years ago, of the 15 years required for an adverse possession claim in Virginia.

Now, this is possibly the most friendly neighborhood we have ever lived in and I don’t want any conflict. But I also have no way of knowing if they would, out of the blue, file an adverse possession claim of the portion of our land on "their side" of the fence, which I guess we all believed to be their property. And it may come as an unpleasant surprise to them when I remove the chain link fence and build our planned privacy fence on the actual line, on what they may have perceived as "their property" for all these years. And I just can't quite rest easy knowing that they actually may know the real situation and are just biding their time before filing a claim we might never even notice until its too late.

Does this seem a reasonable plan (a few questions)?

1) Remove the existing chain link fence this week and place stakes and string along the actual line. This would be seen by reasonable people as very temporary and thus much less aggressive to them than actually installing 4x4 posts in concrete. It would present an opportunity for them to open discussion if they had any issue.

2) If they protested we could provide them a copy of our plat, and if they still protested, I would be willing to hire a surveyor to mark the line officially prior to building our new fence. At that point, if they still had a problem, it would be with the surveyor or the county, is this correct?

3) If, upon removing the fence and placing the stakes and string on the actual line, we were to clean up and remove "their" pile of yard debris, would this legally constitute "use" of the property by us and thereby negate any claim they could make to "exclusive" use of the property over the past 14.89 years?

Any comments would be most welcome. Sorry for the long post--this is a serious-but-delicate matter for us as we greatly value the neighborly atmosphere here, yet have no intention of giving up any of our property if we can help it.

These are represented as relevant points of the law in VA, as summarized at: https://statelaws.findlaw.com/virginia-law/virginia-adverse-possession-laws.html

  • 'Hostile' Possession - The property is taken without permission from the property owner.
  • 'Actual' Possession - The claimant must physically possess the property in order to claim title [the fence...].
  • 'Open and Notorious' - Possession of the property must be open and obvious to casual onlookers.
  • 'Exclusive and Continuous' for a Specified Period of Time - The person claiming title must have been the exclusive possessor of the property for 15 years (in Virginia).
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  • Investor · Clairemont, CA · Member since 2011 · 3k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    7y

    So without getting too into the weeds...a simple letter 'allowing' his encroachment for his leaves ect would eliminate his claim under 'hostile'. Your letter could simply state that you intend to perpetuate allowing his encroachment but, but can unilaterally change your mind at a future date.

    That said I doubt that he could perfect a claim if he did pursue it...AP is one of the most difficult burdens for good reason. 

  • Williamsburg, VA · Member since 2014 · 28 posts · 2 votes
    7y
    Thanks much for your reply. I considered that, but how? Does the letter have to be recorded at the courthouse? If not, how can I prove I even wrote or sent it, or what it contained?

    Originally posted by @Matt Devincenzo:

    So without getting too into the weeds...a simple letter 'allowing' his encroachment for his leaves ect would eliminate his claim under 'hostile'. Your letter could simply state that you intend to perpetuate allowing his encroachment but, but can unilaterally change your mind at a future date.

    That said I doubt that he could perfect a claim if he did pursue it...AP is one of the most difficult burdens for good reason. 

  • Rental Property Investor · Olympia, WA · Member since 2012 · 543 posts · 311 votes
    7y

    @Mike C. A certified letter describing your provisional intent to allow the current encroachment, with return receipt requested and a copy of the letter sent to your attorney would be sufficient proof.  Matt is likely to be correct in saying that it would be difficult for your neighbor to perfect a claim of Adverse Possession.  

    However, I like you ideas #1, 2, & 3 best of all.   You have written out a surer method of handling the potential problem that is both neighborly and minimally intrusive.   My vote is to stick with your plan.

  • Investor · Clairemont, CA · Member since 2011 · 3k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    7y

    Yes send it certified, if you intend to leave things as they are for now. Otherwise if you do in fact intend to move the fence, then I would have your surveyor mark the corners first. Following that you should talk to the other owner in person and discuss what you intend to do. Finally if he opposes (some people can be difficult) then send the letter. If he doesn't object, then you move the fence and the issue is over since you have now repossessed your property.

    Another thing, generally (and I don't know VA specifically) the 'taker' must pay taxes on the property during that time. It is a part of the 'hostile possession' in that your intent needs to be from the outset that you are going to claim ownership of the property. So if you pay taxes on that portion, this again indicates he cannot perfect his claim (if he even tried). Again AP is one of the absolute most difficult areas of RE law to perfect. It's underlying intent isn't such that two actively involved neighbors should ever deprive the other of property through an accidental encroachment. The intent is that anyone that lets their property lie to waste away, can get their property claimed by someone who indeed will put it into productive use.

  • Williamsburg, VA · Member since 2014 · 28 posts · 2 votes
    7y

    Thanks for all the input.

    As for paying taxes on the property, its part of our yard and so we have of course been paying the property tax right along.

    I'll go with pulling old fence, marking the actual line with survey flags and giving neighbor a copy of plat and deed, and only hiring surveyor if I cant find pipes on corners as per plat and/or if neighbor objects (gotta figure out how to use new Harbor Freight metal detector first--its very well rated.)  They are somewhat elderly and seem laid back, but pretty knowledgeable about things real estate and have made many expensive improvements to their property over the years.

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