Protection of investment held in personal name with a HELOC

Protection of investment held in personal name with a HELOC

Investor · Milwaukee, WI · Member since 2014 · 69 posts · 13 votes
Hello Bp Need advice on protection of a property that I have a home equity LOC on. In order to obtain the HELOC i had to use a personal guarantee (property title in my name) . Transferring title will trigger due on sale clause (stated in contract) Im only protected with basic liability insurance now. I need more protection... LLC possible ? Land trust ?
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Kenneth GarrettPro Member
Investor · Florida Panhandle/Illinois · Member since 2016 · 4k+ posts · 3k+ votes
9y

Nolan,

The LLC is the best Asset protection for rental properties. A couple of things to note:

When you put property in your own name you expose your personal assets to a lawsuit. This could include your home and any other assets you may have. If you do use a LLC you must separate your personal funds from the LLC. The LLC is a business no comingling funds. Separate bank account and treat it like a business. If you do not, then the LLC is a sham and your assets would be exposed potentially by the litigant piercing the corporate veil.

There a lot of opinions on this topic.  One important note is that the issue only arises if your insurance could not cover the liability.  I think if you are going to be landlord than it is a business and you should treat it as such.  Plus once you create the business you can take advantages of the tax benefits.   

Check out Mark Kohler on youtube.  He is an attorney and CPA and does a great job on explaining asset protection.  He also has a weekly podcast that is very informative and fun.  As fun as taxes and legal issues can be.

Good Luck.  

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  • Professional · Bothell, WA · Member since 2016 · 89 posts · 17 votes
    9y

    I believe this depends on why you think you need more protection. For example, some people try to transfer assets ahead of a known legal issue. The court can find ways to loop the asset back in under fraudulent transfer rules. 

  • Investor · Milwaukee, WI · Member since 2014 · 69 posts · 13 votes
    9y
    So with enough landlord insurance i should be okay ? Do you recommend any specific type of policy ?
  • Investor · Milwaukee, WI · Member since 2014 · 69 posts · 13 votes
    9y
    No lawsuit or anything. I just know an LLC is the best protection . Having a Heloc makes using one more complicated ...
  • Investor · Milwaukee, WI · Member since 2014 · 69 posts · 13 votes
    9y
    Frank Selden
  • Kenneth GarrettPro Member
    Investor · Florida Panhandle/Illinois · Member since 2016 · 4k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    9y

    Nolan,

    The LLC is the best Asset protection for rental properties. A couple of things to note:

    When you put property in your own name you expose your personal assets to a lawsuit. This could include your home and any other assets you may have. If you do use a LLC you must separate your personal funds from the LLC. The LLC is a business no comingling funds. Separate bank account and treat it like a business. If you do not, then the LLC is a sham and your assets would be exposed potentially by the litigant piercing the corporate veil.

    There a lot of opinions on this topic.  One important note is that the issue only arises if your insurance could not cover the liability.  I think if you are going to be landlord than it is a business and you should treat it as such.  Plus once you create the business you can take advantages of the tax benefits.   

    Check out Mark Kohler on youtube.  He is an attorney and CPA and does a great job on explaining asset protection.  He also has a weekly podcast that is very informative and fun.  As fun as taxes and legal issues can be.

    Good Luck.  

  • Investor · Milwaukee, WI · Member since 2014 · 69 posts · 13 votes
    9y
    Kenneth Garrett definitely understood on all points .. In order to do a heloc the property had to be in my name .. Im just wondering how to go against the personal guarantee by putting the property into an LLC or trust ..
  • Kenneth GarrettPro Member
    Investor · Florida Panhandle/Illinois · Member since 2016 · 4k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    9y

    You are correct you would be going against the due on sale clause by transferring the property.  I can only say on this point very few banks have called and instituted the due on sale clause for this.  I would refer you to your attorney for direction on this matter.    

  • Investor · Milwaukee, WI · Member since 2014 · 69 posts · 13 votes
    9y
    Kenneth Garrett I appreciate you the help means a lot
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