Skip to content
×
Try PRO Free Today!
BiggerPockets Pro offers you a comprehensive suite of tools and resources
Market and Deal Finder Tools
Deal Analysis Calculators
Property Management Software
Exclusive discounts to Home Depot, RentRedi, and more
$0
7 days free
$828/yr or $69/mo when billed monthly.
$390/yr or $32.5/mo when billed annually.
7 days free. Cancel anytime.
Already a Pro Member? Sign in here

Join Over 3 Million Real Estate Investors

Create a free BiggerPockets account to comment, participate, and connect with over 3 million real estate investors.
Use your real name
By signing up, you indicate that you agree to the BiggerPockets Terms & Conditions.
The community here is like my own little personal real estate army that I can depend upon to help me through ANY problems I come across.
Creative Real Estate Financing
All Forum Categories
Followed Discussions
Followed Categories
Followed People
Followed Locations
Market News & Data
General Info
Real Estate Strategies
Landlording & Rental Properties
Real Estate Professionals
Financial, Tax, & Legal
Real Estate Classifieds
Reviews & Feedback

Updated over 6 years ago on . Most recent reply

User Stats

22
Posts
0
Votes
Freddy Hernandez
  • Investor
  • Chicago, IL
0
Votes |
22
Posts

BRRRR- Limit of 4 Mortgages?

Freddy Hernandez
  • Investor
  • Chicago, IL
Posted
Hello everyone, I have a few questions regarding the BRRRR strategy since I am in the beginning stages of executing my first purchase using said method. Once the property is rehabbed and rented, is there an amount of time I need to wait before financing the property? Also, I recently read that there is a limit of 4 mortgages. If I’m not mistaken this only applies to FreddieMac/FannieMae correct? This does not apply to small lender and credit unions does it? I plan to finance through a small lender where I am good friends with one of the brokers. Thank you all in advance!!

Most Popular Reply

User Stats

7,926
Posts
6,316
Votes
Andrew Postell
#1 BRRRR - Buy, Rehab, Rent, Refinance, Repeat Contributor
  • Lender
  • Fort Worth, TX
6,316
Votes |
7,926
Posts
Andrew Postell
#1 BRRRR - Buy, Rehab, Rent, Refinance, Repeat Contributor
  • Lender
  • Fort Worth, TX
Replied

@Freddy Hernandez there is a lot of information out there and some of it conflicts with each other.  It is true that you can get up to 10 mortgages with Fannie/Freddie but what you may not know is that the bank has the option of not following that rule.  Meaning, the bank can be MORE strict that than. In the banking industry we call that an "overlay".  Overlays are the extra rules that lenders put on top of the Fannie/Freddie guidelines.  Other examples of overlays - needing 2 years of rental history, having a minimum credit score, waiting 6-12 months for you to be on title.....ALL of those are overlays.  And there's a BUNCH more too.  When you interview at your friends bank ask these questions:

  1. When do you start using rental income to help me qualify? (the answer needs to be immediately)
  2. How long do you need me to be on title to refinance? (this is important if you do need a short term loan to purchase then refinance out - and the answer should be 1 day...very important that it is 1 day on title is all that is needed to refinance)
  3. What is my minimum down payment required? (not so important but if they only require 15% down on a single family home that is usually a good sign that you are working with a flexible lender)
  4. Can I change title to my LLC?
  5. Do you sell your mortgages?
  6. Can you explain to me what your reserve requirements are?

These questions need to be answered relatively quickly.  That's how you know you are working with a bank that is good at investment property financing.  If your friend does have overlays that aren't friendly towards you (or if he doesn't even know what those are) then please find another lender.  No hard feelings on this, it's just you need a lender that will put you in a position to succeed.  This is critical to your continued success if you are new to investing. 

Again, this post is about Fannie/Freddie lending.  There are lots of other loan types out there.

Good luck!

  • Andrew Postell
  • Loading replies...