Advice on REI entry strategy

Advice on REI entry strategy

Rental Property Investor · Tallahassee, FL · Member since 2016 · 50 posts · 6 votes

We have 1 rental property that we bought via traditional mortgage and although we got a good deal, we used savings for the 20% down and closing. Our goal is to acquire several more rentals and since we don't have tons of money laying around to keep doing it that way we are trying to do a few flips to build up some capital to buy more rentals. But the more I listen to and read posts from @Brandon Turner about the BRRR strategy I wonder if we might be working too hard? Or maybe I'm not understanding it right, hence this post asking for feedback.

For example, if we were to buy several distressed properties to rehab and sell the plan is to then use the lump sums of cash we would (hopefully!) make to finance the down payments and closings on rentals with good cash flow.

BUT, why then wouldn't we save ourselves work and buy distressed properties and rehab them, then refinance them to get back what we put into them and then start renting them. The goal here would be to refinance only the amount we put in (enough to pay back any lenders and pay ourselves a small amount) to keep the mortgages low to increase the cash flow amount. This way we are only doing one rehab to begin getting the rental cash flow from a single property rather than doing several flips to make enough to not come out of pocket for the rental. 

Hope my explanation makes sense. Based on that, is there something we are missing about either process that someone could enlighten me to? I was a special ed teacher for 10 years and my classroom motto was "work smarter, not harder" and something about our original strategy just seems to violate my code when I think about BRRR. Thanks for any clarification you can give :)

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  • Investor · Lees Summit, MO · Member since 2015 · 40 posts · 10 votes
    10y

    Personally, with money being as cheap as it is today, I would take as much out of the deal as I possibly could. If you buy a very good deal, that you're able to pull cash out after paying off all lenders or private money, you can reinvest that money into another deal. If you buy right, and have a quality unit after rehab, even if you pull out everything possible it should still cash flow. Anything you can get from a cash out refinance can be used to acquire even more cash flowing properties. More cash flowing properties means more cash flow obviously, but more equity from your loan being amortized by your tenants, and more tax benefits for holding real estate. My $.02. 

  • Investor · LaGrange GA · Member since 2014 · 121 posts · 55 votes
    10y

    It all boils down to the deal specifics. Here's a very basic formula that would need to work out in order to BRRR successfully... keep in mind, this doesn't account for your rental portion, just the buy, rehab, refi portion.

    Purchase price = [75%ARV] - Rehab costs - carrying costs

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