Skip to content
×
PRO
Pro Members Get Full Access!
Get off the sidelines and take action in real estate investing with BiggerPockets Pro. Our comprehensive suite of tools and resources minimize mistakes, support informed decisions, and propel you to success.
Advanced networking features
Market and Deal Finder tools
Property analysis calculators
Landlord Command Center
$0
TODAY
$69.00/month when billed monthly.
$32.50/month when billed annually.
7 day free trial. Cancel anytime
Already a Pro Member? Sign in here

Join Over 3 Million Real Estate Investors

Create a free BiggerPockets account to comment, participate, and connect with over 3 million real estate investors.
Use your real name
By signing up, you indicate that you agree to the BiggerPockets Terms & Conditions.
The community here is like my own little personal real estate army that I can depend upon to help me through ANY problems I come across.
Creative Real Estate Financing
All Forum Categories
Followed Discussions
Followed Categories
Followed People
Followed Locations
Market News & Data
General Info
Real Estate Strategies
Landlording & Rental Properties
Real Estate Professionals
Financial, Tax, & Legal
Real Estate Classifieds
Reviews & Feedback

Updated about 10 hours ago, 12/03/2024

User Stats

16
Posts
8
Votes
Jasmine G.
  • Philadelphia, PA
8
Votes |
16
Posts

Financing first rental

Jasmine G.
  • Philadelphia, PA
Posted

I am looking to purchase my first rental property. I currently own my primary residence where I am responsible for the mortgage. My husband on the other hand is not tied to the mortgage and has the ability to obtain a conventional l

loan as a first time homebuyer. However, we’d like to purchase the next property as a single-family or single-family townhome. I’m struggling to find ways to find low money down with average interest rates to purchase the rental home. When I speak to finance institutions, I am only offered non-conventional loans for investment properties which require high down payments and significantly higher interest rates. Right now the market isn’t that great but I could see us looking to purchase a multifamily duplex however, in the current market, I’m finding it difficult to be able to have one tenant cover the cost for that property to break even.

User Stats

4,442
Posts
4,314
Votes
Robin Simon
Pro Member
#2 Real Estate Deal Analysis & Advice Contributor
  • Lender
  • Austin, TX
4,314
Votes |
4,442
Posts
Robin Simon
Pro Member
#2 Real Estate Deal Analysis & Advice Contributor
  • Lender
  • Austin, TX
Replied
Quote from @Jasmine G.:

I am looking to purchase my first rental property. I currently own my primary residence where I am responsible for the mortgage. My husband on the other hand is not tied to the mortgage and has the ability to obtain a conventional l

loan as a first time homebuyer. However, we’d like to purchase the next property as a single-family or single-family townhome. I’m struggling to find ways to find low money down with average interest rates to purchase the rental home. When I speak to finance institutions, I am only offered non-conventional loans for investment properties which require high down payments and significantly higher interest rates. Right now the market isn’t that great but I could see us looking to purchase a multifamily duplex however, in the current market, I’m finding it difficult to be able to have one tenant cover the cost for that property to break even.


 Definitely understand - its a challenging market right now for rates and getting purchases to cash flow

What kind of down payment are you looking at? You can probably find a 20% down DSCR Loan pretty easily, are you more trying to find something even less than that?

  • Robin Simon
  • [email protected]
  • User Stats

    286
    Posts
    64
    Votes
    Jaycee Greene
    Pro Member
    • Real Estate Consultant
    • St. Louis MSA
    64
    Votes |
    286
    Posts
    Jaycee Greene
    Pro Member
    • Real Estate Consultant
    • St. Louis MSA
    Replied

    Hi @Jasmine G.! I concur with Robin's comment about the DSCR loan, but it can be an intimidating process. I'm curious as to the "financial institutions" you've talking to, were they banks? credit unions? HMLs? Also, what type of "non-conventional loans" did they offer?

  • Jaycee Greene
  • [email protected]
  • BiggerPockets logo
    Join Our Private Community for Passive Investors
    |
    BiggerPockets
    Get first-hand insights and real sponsor reviews from other investors

    User Stats

    4,793
    Posts
    3,722
    Votes
    Nicholas L.
    Pro Member
    #5 All Forums Contributor
    • Flipper/Rehabber
    • Pittsburgh
    3,722
    Votes |
    4,793
    Posts
    Nicholas L.
    Pro Member
    #5 All Forums Contributor
    • Flipper/Rehabber
    • Pittsburgh
    Replied

    @Jasmine G.

    i think you've analyzed the market correctly.  most LTRs just don't cash flow right now, and the less you put down, the less chance you have at them cash flowing.  especially if you're looking on market.

  • Nicholas L.
  • User Stats

    16
    Posts
    8
    Votes
    Jasmine G.
    • Philadelphia, PA
    8
    Votes |
    16
    Posts
    Jasmine G.
    • Philadelphia, PA
    Replied

    @Jaycee Greene I’ve contacted big banks small local banks and I haven’t quite tried credit unions although I have 2 credit unions for which I have accounts (but my experience is that they aren’t offering that much better terms). I haven’t tried hard money or private money lenders either. So I’m trying to get a feel for what’s out there. I will keep trying to find something tho!

    User Stats

    16
    Posts
    8
    Votes
    Jasmine G.
    • Philadelphia, PA
    8
    Votes |
    16
    Posts
    Jasmine G.
    • Philadelphia, PA
    Replied

    @Robin Simon I’m looking to put at least 5% down in a loan and use a larger portion of my capital to buy down the interest rate to take off a couple of points. Additionally I want to keep reserves for small cosmetic Renovations as needed. I’m trying to buy with as little money down as I reasonably can with enough to use towards bringing down that interest rate and keep cash reserves. Additionally I don’t want to dip into my personal primary residence rainy day fund. I have my separate allocation of funds exclusively for investment property. I could have easily gotten a home with what I have now back in 2021 :(. But the struggle is real right now…

    User Stats

    4,442
    Posts
    4,314
    Votes
    Robin Simon
    Pro Member
    #2 Real Estate Deal Analysis & Advice Contributor
    • Lender
    • Austin, TX
    4,314
    Votes |
    4,442
    Posts
    Robin Simon
    Pro Member
    #2 Real Estate Deal Analysis & Advice Contributor
    • Lender
    • Austin, TX
    Replied
    Quote from @Jasmine G.:

    @Robin Simon I’m looking to put at least 5% down in a loan and use a larger portion of my capital to buy down the interest rate to take off a couple of points. Additionally I want to keep reserves for small cosmetic Renovations as needed. I’m trying to buy with as little money down as I reasonably can with enough to use towards bringing down that interest rate and keep cash reserves. Additionally I don’t want to dip into my personal primary residence rainy day fund. I have my separate allocation of funds exclusively for investment property. I could have easily gotten a home with what I have now back in 2021 :(. But the struggle is real right now…


     Yes, understandable.  I think rates will eventually come down (likely next year), so just have to be patient (but right thing to do)

  • Robin Simon
  • [email protected]
  • User Stats

    17,032
    Posts
    14,573
    Votes
    Chris Seveney
    Lender
    Pro Member
    • Investor
    • Virginia
    14,573
    Votes |
    17,032
    Posts
    Chris Seveney
    Lender
    Pro Member
    • Investor
    • Virginia
    ModeratorReplied
    Quote from @Jasmine G.:

    @Robin Simon I’m looking to put at least 5% down in a loan and use a larger portion of my capital to buy down the interest rate to take off a couple of points. Additionally I want to keep reserves for small cosmetic Renovations as needed. I’m trying to buy with as little money down as I reasonably can with enough to use towards bringing down that interest rate and keep cash reserves. Additionally I don’t want to dip into my personal primary residence rainy day fund. I have my separate allocation of funds exclusively for investment property. I could have easily gotten a home with what I have now back in 2021 :(. But the struggle is real right now…


     It will be challenging to find banks that will lend with less than 20% down. If rates do go down significantly, it will be more of a sign of economic instability.

    I recommend continuing to save monies until you come up with enough for a decent down payment. The last thing you want to do is have a rental go bad and then lose your primary residence due to a deficiency judgment because of a bad rental property.

    • Chris Seveney
    business profile image
    7e investments
    0.0 star
    0 Reviews

    User Stats

    2
    Posts
    0
    Votes
    Replied

    And why isn't an FHA 3% loan available to her? I know conventional would be cheaper cost wise, but isn't her husband eligible?

    User Stats

    183
    Posts
    141
    Votes
    Lindsay Davis
    Agent
    • Real Estate Broker
    • Birmingham, AL
    141
    Votes |
    183
    Posts
    Lindsay Davis
    Agent
    • Real Estate Broker
    • Birmingham, AL
    Replied

    @Jasmine G.,

    If you’re constrained by equity, it's going to be tough to find deals that pencil out in this environment. Cash flowing at 5% down was possible about 3 years ago—but that ship may have since sailed.

    Now, you’re left with two options: you can either pony up more cash per deal, or you can potentially look out of state for markets with more favorable rent-to-price ratios.

    Or…you can wait for rates to decline, but I don’t know how much a 100 or 150 basis point rate cut in the next year will really move the needle.

    That said, some firms (usually new construction companies, turnkey providers, etc.) will enter into forward commitments with lenders at institutional rates and then pass cost interest rate savings onto end buyers to entice them to purchase a property. For example, if the prevailing interest rate is 7.5%, a builder could offer buyers a 5.5% rate as a way to make the purchase more affordable. If high rates are your primary concern, you could potentially look around for a similar arrangement.

    • Lindsay Davis
    • 205-205-4118
    business profile image
    Spartan Invest
    4.6 stars
    63 Reviews

    User Stats

    48
    Posts
    17
    Votes
    Tanarat Bunchom
    • Lender
    • Dallas, TX
    17
    Votes |
    48
    Posts
    Tanarat Bunchom
    • Lender
    • Dallas, TX
    Replied
    Quote from @Jasmine G.:

    I am looking to purchase my first rental property. I currently own my primary residence where I am responsible for the mortgage. My husband on the other hand is not tied to the mortgage and has the ability to obtain a conventional l

    loan as a first time homebuyer. However, we’d like to purchase the next property as a single-family or single-family townhome. I’m struggling to find ways to find low money down with average interest rates to purchase the rental home. When I speak to finance institutions, I am only offered non-conventional loans for investment properties which require high down payments and significantly higher interest rates. Right now the market isn’t that great but I could see us looking to purchase a multifamily duplex however, in the current market, I’m finding it difficult to be able to have one tenant cover the cost for that property to break even.

    It sounds like you're in a bit of a tricky situation, but there are options to consider. Since your husband is a first-time homebuyer and eligible for conventional financing, you might be able to use his status to buy a single-family property, live in it for a bit, and then turn it into a rental down the line. Alternatively, you could explore house hacking with a multifamily duplex, where you live in one unit and rent out the others. As for finding better financing terms, look into portfolio lenders or credit unions—they might offer more flexibility than traditional banks for investment properties. Additionally, you might want to consider an FHA loan for the duplex if you plan to live in one unit, as it requires a lower down payment and could still allow for a good return on investment. Keep an eye on local market conditions to find the right deal when the timing is better.