Cashout Refinance in Macon GA w/Tenant Paying $1000/mth

Cashout Refinance in Macon GA w/Tenant Paying $1000/mth

Dwayne ClarkePro Member
New to Real Estate · FL · Member since 2021 · 22 posts · 16 votes

Good day,

I trust all is well!  I need some advice please!  High level info below.....

- Purchased 1st investment property (3/1 SFH) with section 8 tenant that had been there for 1 year paying $555/mth rent in Dec 2021. Purchase price $53K cash, used LLC - Lesson learned with buying cash...killed my liquidity

- 11 months in ownership the tenant destroyed the property, stole all the appliances and even stole the interior door, then locked me out of the property.

- A year later I built up money for rehab (cash + busn credit card) - $30K - rehabbed the entire house, except the roof, windows and doors.

- Property now rented for $1000 per mth

- Current Value Estimates: Redfin - $114K, Trulia - $113K, Zillow: $113K; still doing research on comps because the area is hit and miss so last I saw was a projected $100K

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- Navy Federal Credit Union say they can do 65% of original purchase price in cash out refinance - $34K

- Hard-money lender offered $30K at 9.9% for 6 months as rehab loan, which I'd use to replace roof, windows, doors, and cutdown at few trees;  then cashout refi for 50% of the appraised value between 6 and 9 % depending on personal credit.

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The offer from Navy Federal wouldn't leave much for next deal after paying down business credit cards. Re: Hard money I've never done a hard money loan before so I'm being as thorough as possible.  The house is class C.

Any advice would be appreciated.  Thank you in advance!

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  • Ko KashiwagiPro Member
    Lender · Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2022 · 967 posts · 445 votes
    2y

    Hi Dwayne,

    Have you looked into DSCR refinance? Conventional lenders would not look at the newly appraised value before the 12 months seasoning. Also, I would go off of actual comps rather than relying on software estimates, especially for properties like this. Happy to discuss further.

  • Raymond J. RodriguesBusiness Member
    Lender · Miami, FL · Member since 2017 · 1k+ posts · 797 votes
    2y

    @Dwayne Clarke it sounds like you’ve gone through a series of misfortunate events and getting back on the right path. You can cash out up to 75% of the properties value, maybe 80% depending on your credit score, etc.

  • 12 Penns Trail Suite 138 Newtown, PA 18940 · Member since 2023 · 1k+ posts · 319 votes
    2y
    Quote from @Dwayne Clarke:

    Good day,

    I trust all is well!  I need some advice please!  High level info below.....

    - Purchased 1st investment property (3/1 SFH) with section 8 tenant that had been there for 1 year paying $555/mth rent in Dec 2021. Purchase price $53K cash, used LLC - Lesson learned with buying cash...killed my liquidity

    - 11 months in ownership the tenant destroyed the property, stole all the appliances and even stole the interior door, then locked me out of the property.

    - A year later I built up money for rehab (cash + busn credit card) - $30K - rehabbed the entire house, except the roof, windows and doors.

    - Property now rented for $1000 per mth

    - Current Value Estimates: Redfin - $114K, Trulia - $113K, Zillow: $113K; still doing research on comps because the area is hit and miss so last I saw was a projected $100K

    ***************************************************************************************************************************

    - Navy Federal Credit Union say they can do 65% of original purchase price in cash out refinance - $34K

    - Hard-money lender offered $30K at 9.9% for 6 months as rehab loan, which I'd use to replace roof, windows, doors, and cutdown at few trees;  then cashout refi for 50% of the appraised value between 6 and 9 % depending on personal credit.

    ***************************************************************************************************************************

    The offer from Navy Federal wouldn't leave much for next deal after paying down business credit cards. Re: Hard money I've never done a hard money loan before so I'm being as thorough as possible.  The house is class C.

    Any advice would be appreciated.  Thank you in advance!


     Its tough to find an outlet for anything else than 75k . Hard money is definitely a good option to access funds to purchase another property 

  • Lender · Richmond VA · Member since 2012 · 311 posts · 33 votes
    2y

    @Dwayne Clarke Up to 75% cash out is available on DSCR depending on credit and all the other expenses.

  • Robin SimonBusiness Member
    Lender · Austin, TX · Member since 2022 · 5k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    2y
    Quote from @Dwayne Clarke:

    Good day,

    I trust all is well!  I need some advice please!  High level info below.....

    - Purchased 1st investment property (3/1 SFH) with section 8 tenant that had been there for 1 year paying $555/mth rent in Dec 2021. Purchase price $53K cash, used LLC - Lesson learned with buying cash...killed my liquidity

    - 11 months in ownership the tenant destroyed the property, stole all the appliances and even stole the interior door, then locked me out of the property.

    - A year later I built up money for rehab (cash + busn credit card) - $30K - rehabbed the entire house, except the roof, windows and doors.

    - Property now rented for $1000 per mth

    - Current Value Estimates: Redfin - $114K, Trulia - $113K, Zillow: $113K; still doing research on comps because the area is hit and miss so last I saw was a projected $100K

    ***************************************************************************************************************************

    - Navy Federal Credit Union say they can do 65% of original purchase price in cash out refinance - $34K

    - Hard-money lender offered $30K at 9.9% for 6 months as rehab loan, which I'd use to replace roof, windows, doors, and cutdown at few trees;  then cashout refi for 50% of the appraised value between 6 and 9 % depending on personal credit.

    ***************************************************************************************************************************

    The offer from Navy Federal wouldn't leave much for next deal after paying down business credit cards. Re: Hard money I've never done a hard money loan before so I'm being as thorough as possible.  The house is class C.

    Any advice would be appreciated.  Thank you in advance!


    Hi - sharing an article I published last year on BiggerPockets - all the options and pros/cons for financing BRRRR Method strategy include cash-out refinances - hope it helps!

    https://www.biggerpockets.com/blog/brrrr-loans-what-are-the-...

  • Philip JosephPro Member
    Investor · Warner Robins, GA · Member since 2021 · 97 posts · 51 votes
    2y

    So if you are lucky enough to get a $100k appraisal then as others have already said, you are looking at $75k loan. DSCR loans are also pretty expensive. Current rates are mid 7s, you will pay at least 2 points and origination fees between $1.5k - $2.5k. You will end up leaving a good amount of cash in the deal (~$45k). But, if it is stabilized, you can start concentrating on saving for your next property. As Dave Greene always preach, you need to have a steady source of income while you grown your portfolio. The $200-$300 cash flow will not cut it. Well not until you have 20-30 of them. And a little lesson for future rehabs, always fix the roof first, as a leaky roof will cost more in rework.

    Cajun

  • Dwayne ClarkePro Member
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    New to Real Estate · FL · Member since 2021 · 22 posts · 16 votes
    2y

    Thanks for the input everyone, I really appreciate it.

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