Advice on Refi options???

Advice on Refi options???

Homeowner · Grandview, WA · Member since 2010 · 155 posts · 21 votes

So, this is a inquiry on behalf of my father.

He owns a house in the town I live in. He bought it with the intent of someday moving there and renting it to college students in the mean time.

He bough for 225k, owes around 195k @ 7% (!), and it is currently worth 175k.

So, he lost his job about a year and a half ago and is having trouble finding work. He had decent reserves and unemployment, but all that will come to an end sooner or later. Either way, he would really like to refinance that house to lower the payment, to reflect the current interest rates, but obviously has no real income, so the debt to income ratio is out of whack. I've tried explaining it all to him, but he still has a hard time understanding how he doesn't make enough money to afford a lower payment...

His credit is perfect (800+), and he has never missed a payment. He has looked into some government programs for his Fannie Mae loan which is held by Wells Fargo (or so I understand), but he does not seem to qualify for anything. The house isn't upsidedown enough to qualify for certain options and other options require that you are behind in payments.

So, does anyone have any suggestions other than selling? Although it is against his character, he has considered just missing a few payments in order to see if it opens any doors. I told him is isn't a solid approach, but he feels like maybe if he actually missed payments, Wells Fargo would consider working with him...

Again, any ideas?

(I appreciate all of your help. These are hard times in our country.)

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  • Developer · Garland, TX · Member since 2008 · 8k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    13y

    Welcome to BiggerPockets, Joe.

    Can you or someone else co-sign for him?

  • Homeowner · Grandview, WA · Member since 2010 · 155 posts · 21 votes
    13y

    I guess that is a possibility.

    Any other ideas (just looks for all the options I can suggest to him).

  • Real Estate Investor · chicago, IL · Member since 2012 · 1k+ posts · 231 votes
    13y

    If he has a fannie mae loan, he could refi under harp program. Now the issue ia no income. Does he have a retirement account? He could show an income stream that way.

  • Rental Property Investor · Northern, CA · Member since 2012 · 5k+ posts · 5k+ votes
    13y

    The HARP 2.0 refi program was the first thing that came to my mind. It's designed for underwater properties.

    Not sure how the lack of income will affect him, but each bank has their own different rules so he may try just calling a few different lenders and see what they say.

    However, do NOT let him start making late payments. That's not going to solve the problem. In fact, for the HARP refi, you don't qualify if you have any late payments in the last six months.

    Here's a link to some more info:

    http://www.bankrate.com/finance/refinance/harp-2-refinance.aspx

    Good luck.

  • Developer · Garland, TX · Member since 2008 · 8k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    13y

    Joe, I noticed you've been a BP member for a couple years, so my welcome was quite belated.

    Perhaps if you or someone else consigns, you/they could be released when your Dad gets a job and can qualify or refi again on his own.

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