Seeking Refinancing Guidance

Seeking Refinancing Guidance

Realtor · Iron Mountain, MI · Member since 2019 · 18 posts · 4 votes

I posted last week with woes regarding lending - lenders only were wanting to grant 20 years, in short.
Deets:

1. House was purchased for 62k. I had to put 0% down. In all, I'm about $3k out of pocket in this deal.
2. I did approximately $38k in remodeling. The house went from wildly outdated (hadn't had ANY updates since early 70s) to essentially a Pinterest home.
3. Estimate it will appraise 135k-160k.
4. 3 beds, 1 bath, around 7 blocks from one of community's biggest schools and best parks. Approx 10 blocks from downtown. Has decent yard, full unfinished basement, full "third level" of storage, huge 2 car garage, big shed. Awesome neighbors. Big, new deck.
5. Rent will be $1,100, $150 app fee, standard 3x income and checks (for reference, most rentals in my town are horribly run down and owned by slumlords and around $600-700 - this is part of my vision...changing the norm to modern and more beautiful, but stricter requirements)

So I had a local bank call yesterday. 
They want to use Freddie. 
Option 1: 30 year, 3.625% rate, approx 71% LTV, I'd have $2621 in fees (can be escrowed) and closings
Option 2: 30 year, 4.5%, approx 71% LTV, NO FEES.
In both deals, I am opting for lines of credit vs cash outs. They told me the cash outs would have considerably higher fees and I'd net about $17k. With a LOC, they told me I'd get approximately $55k.

My question:
Knowing I'm around 25-30% of my DTI (before any Realtor income! This is from my day job), and my overall goal is to BRRRR:
1. Does it seem low because I'm $0 in this deal?
2. If I use the $55k on another property, I would need it to ARV around $75k to get 100% of its value refi'd, correct?
3. Will I "hit a lending wall" if I continue to BRRRR? It feels like it.

Let me know your suggestions and questions! I hugely appreciate everyone's time and knowledge!

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  • Investor · St. Louis, MO · Member since 2017 · 109 posts · 77 votes
    6y

    It sounds like you want to continue to add rental properties.  Therefore, you will need a local bank that utilizes "portfolio loans", meaning they are not sold off to either Freddie Mac or Fannie Mae.  The local bank holds the loan on their own balance sheet.   I found a local bank in St. Louis that waives the origination fee and does internal appraisals.  This really cuts down on my closing costs each time.  In addition, I set-up a line of credit with this St. Louis bank.  As a result, I am a cash buyer and can close very quickly.  

    If your house appraises for $135,000 then a 70% LTV on a re-finance will allow you to get back 100% of your purchase price and remodeling costs. Personally, I would take the lower rate with closing costs escrowed into the loan. This strategy will allow you to buy another rental property.

    Remember that you are looking for 70% LTV deals that cover your purchase price and rehab costs. This maximizes your cash-on-cash return, while allowing to add more rental properties to your portfolio.

  • Realtor · Iron Mountain, MI · Member since 2019 · 18 posts · 4 votes
    6y

    @Greg Miller

    So where are they getting a 55k HELOC from? I figured I would also get the rough 95k back.

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