Re-financing rehab costs

Re-financing rehab costs

Investor · Fort Worth, TX · Member since 2011 · 1k+ posts · 450 votes

I recently shared about my first deal consisting of a rental unit that I have 13K in cash and about 12K in consumer debt (interest rate 12-14%) invested. The rent is 550/month and it is currently leased. I have had it for about 2.5 months.

Several BP members suggested I get a HELOC, to reduce my interest rates on the borrowed portion. I can't find a bank willing to do that on a rental. So far that appears to only be an option if it is my personal residence.

Right now, the property barely breaks even or is slightly negative (using 50% rule)in cash flow until the credit card debt is reduced over time. Our current plan is to just apply all the net rents (cash reserves already established)and all the extra money from our paychecks to pay the debt off in about 12 to 18 months. Then the property will be free and clear and cash flowing nicely.

But at that point, it will be a year to a year and a half down the road and we will be started back at square one just starting to save up for the next deal. So in all, it could be 2 to 3 years before we are ready to act again. I really enjoyed the process of my first deal and would like to do another one sooner...

If I get a mortgage on the house, I'll probably be looking at 3000+ in closing costs, which is a lot compared to the amount invested. And that will affect my debt to income ratio for future financing. Plus I don't want to take such a large mortgage that the property is not profitable. The mortgage payment would have to be around 150 or less to meet my minimum long term cash flow goals for the property. So, it just doesn't look practical to do a mortgage. I think the house would appraise around 30 to 40K, maybe as high as 50K.

What are your thoughts on refi strategies or strategies to move forward quicker.

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  • Rental Property Investor · Mercer Island, WA · Member since 2008 · 22k+ posts · 14k+ votes
    14y

    You've made it difficult to refinance by putting in the cash and credit card money. As far as a lender is concerned, you own it free and clear. So, any sort of refinance is a cash out refi. Lenders don't like those. You're probably going to need to wait a year, maybe six months, before you can refi.

    Better, though more expensive, to get a HML and have an actual deed of trust on the property. Then its a rate-and-term refi, which will be easier.

    How many banks and credit unions have you called? You may need to make dozens of phone calls to find a more flexible lender.

  • Investor · Fort Worth, TX · Member since 2011 · 1k+ posts · 450 votes
    14y

    That is what I am seeing Jon. It seems a little ironic what banks like and don't like, but I'm sure there are just things that I'm not educated on that makes me think that.

    Honestly, I have only called about 6 local banks and my credit union, but have heard the exact same thing from each one. I might just have to call around more.

  • Rental Property Investor · Mercer Island, WA · Member since 2008 · 22k+ posts · 14k+ votes
    14y

    Yep, make some more calls. Also speak with investors in your area about who they're using, either lenders or brokers, that can close loans. They are out there. Also try the FDIC institution directory. Look for small banks in your area that show real estate loans on their books. I found seven that show a mortgage lending specialization with deposits under $1B in your area.

    I think the idea behind rate-and-term being easier than cash-out is that someone else has already looked at the deal and thought it was OK.

  • Specialist · Portland, OR · Member since 2010 · 3k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    14y

    Maybe you should sell and take some profit or find a partner. Also, have you considered a heloc on your personal residence?

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