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Rijm D.
  • Las Vegas, NV
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30 vs 15Y Mortgage & How did they invest before these low rates?

Rijm D.
  • Las Vegas, NV
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So 30 years is better than 15 since you can pay off the 30 faster if you want too anyways and have a lower payment. Rack up all the good debt weapons now since the rates are at such a historical low, have a lower payment to afford more loans. 

My question is, how did people and investors do it when there were 80/20 loans just before the recession? What were the terms then, 20% at 12%, the 80 at 7% i think it was. How were and had deals to be structured different then they are now, what were the margins for profit and mortgage handled? Interested if someone could talk about that, since these rates now can not stay that low forever, what could we be looking at in the future judging by the past. How did you veterans still make a deal work back then? Knowing that people had invested for centuries even at those high past rates, I wonder how this can be a long term game when rates go back to these 80/20 loans. 

Thanks. 

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Andrew Postell
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  • Fort Worth, TX
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Andrew Postell
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@Rijm D. lending before the housing crises was COMPLETELY different than it is now.  To elaborate on this would take HOURS but in many cases buying at 100% of value didn't matter because your property value increased $20k in 6 months.  Or you might have received a REVERSE amortizing loan....meaning every payment you made towards the loan actually made the loan balance higher.  And the reason why you got that loan was because the payment was so darn low. Interest Only loans, etc.  Most of these loans are not even around any more for a reason. 

Today though, investors and borrowers are significantly more educated.  Don't get me wrong, banks aren't allowed to lend those types of loans either.  But we made them work because the loans had such low payments and your got immediate equity.  I'm sure a lot of investors could tell story after story on this.  But to directly answer your question of "how did they work"....they only worked for a short time.  Then it all crashed.  

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