Understanding the True Cost of Hard Money Loans

Understanding the True Cost of Hard Money Loans

Investor · Charlotte, NC · Member since 2016 · 25 posts · 8 votes

Hello BP, I feel as though this might be a stupid question but I'm trying to get a better understanding of the true costs associated with hard money loans for educational purposes. 

1. Do HML typically require a down payment in addition to the points being charged to get the loan in the first place?

2. If my up front costs are $50k to get a loan in the first place (down payment and points), is this amount in addition to the purchase/rehab costs or go towards the purchase/rehab costs? Example - Not including monthly interest payments and carry costs, would my total cost be $250k if the purchase/rehab costs were $250k or $300k if you have to put up $50k to get the loan in the first place? 

Another way to think of it is what happens to the down payment? Does the down payment go directly to the seller and come off the purchase price or does the HML keep the down payment themselves in order to give the loan in the first place?

I'm trying to learn how this works to study the profitability of various investments. I want to know exactly how much of the sales revenue goes back to pay the original purchase/rehab loan off, plus any down payment, plus any carry costs, plus any other costs ...

It doesn't make sense to me that a HML would be willing to give so much money on a deal when they are only getting the upfront points being charged and monthly interest payments. I would think the HML would keep the down payment as well in order to give you the loan in the first place.

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  • Lender · San Antonio, TX · Member since 2016 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    7y

    @Kenny Lincoln 1. Yes, yes they do. The less experience you have, the more skin in the game the lender wants from you.

    2. Points are just an added expense, down payment is your equity contribution.

    If you got a $200k property and had to put down 25%, the loan amount would be $150k and your down payment would be $50k. All would be applied towards the purchase of the property. Then if you had to pay 2 points, for example, you would pay another $3k in origination. Your total out of pocket would be $53k plus all the other fees associated with a closing.

  • Real Estate Professional · West Palm Beach, FL · Member since 2012 · 23k+ posts · 13k+ votes
    7y

    Your down payment is part of your Purchase price....it goes to the seller.

    Example: $150k purchase price, $50k rehab....$275k ARV

    The HML may lend a Total of $170k...$120k toward purchase, $50 toward rehab.

    So, you need to add Your $30k to the $120k loan for the purchase,  borrow the $50k for rehab. You need to have other money for carrying costs (insurance, utilities, rehab overruns, etc)

    You pay the HML points (maybe 2-3 and they usually get deducted straight out of your loan amount) on the $170k, interest (maybe 10-12%/yr) and closing costs. Don't expect to get this loan if you've never rehabbed a property before though.

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