Saint Louis, MO · Member since 2017 · 11 posts · 1 vote
My partner and I found a owner who is willing to sell 3 properties from their portfolio (4 doors) for a total of 94k. The properties are stabilized and leased with long term tenants. All the numbers look great on the cash flow in. We don't know where we can get funding to get this deal done. We are leveraging 20-25k cash and the owner agreed to owner financing but the deal fell through do to the terms he wants. So at this point without complete funding of the deal it won't happen. Does anyone have any suggestions or has had this happen to them before?
Rental Property Investor · Concord, CA · Member since 2016 · 499 posts · 219 votes
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Justin Hubbard Without calculating the monthly payment, I would say if you are cash flow positive with the terms, go for the 3year balloon and then refi in year 3 as you would be able to show the banks that the property cash flows. I am assuming you have the 20k to put down
Specialist · Westlake Village, CA · Member since 2010 · 1k+ posts · 781 votes
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Just keep negotiating by keeping in touch with the owner while you pursue other deals. One of my best lessons was not to stress too much over a deal that didn't happen. Manage your time & energy to find more opportunities. Just out of curiosity, what were the terms he proposed?
Rental Property Investor · Concord, CA · Member since 2016 · 499 posts · 219 votes
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Justin Hubbard Without calculating the monthly payment, I would say if you are cash flow positive with the terms, go for the 3year balloon and then refi in year 3 as you would be able to show the banks that the property cash flows. I am assuming you have the 20k to put down
Saint Louis, MO · Member since 2017 · 11 posts · 1 vote
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@Avi Garg it's 3 properties (4 doors) and I was told the bank only will refinance 1 home at a time. My partner is also worried about the bank not picking up the loan and we then lose credibility with our lender/seller by not being able to make the payment on time.
Rental Property Investor · Concord, CA · Member since 2016 · 499 posts · 219 votes
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@Justin Hubbard You could always talk to a portfolio lender like B2R who could do a single loan for 3 properties... Just to make sure you are aware that if the properties are under one loan, you would probably have issues when you are selling ... keep calling banks and credit unions in your area and see if someone would do what you are looking for
Investor · Coppell, TX · Member since 2008 · 2k+ posts · 646 votes
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Hello and welcome to MP! One of two ways i thought you should pursue. One of them was owner financing with the terms you need. The other way you could consider a private lending if you have somebody in mind. The higher the risk, the larger profit split you might consider giving some of it away. t depends on the possible lender and it depends pn how much you are willing to give away on this deal.
I'm sure you can find someone that will refi all 3 of those. When you say "I was told"... were you told by someone that thinks they know or someone that definitely knows. I'm in banking and I would be surprised if you can't find someone that will refi those for you.
The rental income needs to be on your taxes for 2 years for banks to consider it. I would spend the next two years making sure your credit is a good as can be and stacking as much cash as you can.
If you can't secure something through a portfolio lender, you may still have an option through business lending. Just know business loan are usually a slightly higher rate. Usually 1% higher or so.
Investor · Lakeland, FL · Member since 2015 · 344 posts · 606 votes
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Go with the 5 year. Take the cashflow after all the bills and apply it toward your principal.
Who knows how much you could pay down in 5 years.
At $250 a month, in 5yrs you would have paid 15k down plus the overage on interest you are paying each month, plus the the actual amortization of the loan as well.
That being said, if you are paying well and not causing the seller issues in collection. He may very well be willing to let the mortgage get modified to extend the balloon or even amortize the loan out.
Hope this helps!! 😀
P.S. Make sure to include a clause into the mtg to have a first right of refusal to buy the mtg, should he try to sell it.
... Does anyone have any suggestions or has had this happen to them before?...
Its really a matter of which side of the fence you want to be on. By the way, if you are not able to get refinancing or pay off the loan when it balloons, what does the terms of the seller financing mortgage say?
Saint Louis, MO · Member since 2017 · 11 posts · 1 vote
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We walked away from the deal after our real estate attorney advised us not to continue do to the wording of the contract and red flags she found throughout the contract.