Borrowing Family Money towards Multifamily Owner Occupant

Borrowing Family Money towards Multifamily Owner Occupant

Metairie, LA · Member since 2016 · 74 posts · 16 votes

Hey BP, 

My wife and I are in the process of potentially making our first real estate investment and purchasing a 4-plex. We will be using a conventional mortgage, putting 5% down, and paying the Mortgage Insurance upfront at closing. Seller has agreed to pay closing costs. My wife's parents have a HELOC on their current house and would are going to let us use/borrow some of it to go towards our upfront expenses at closing and potentially for any updates we want to do at the property. Our plan is to live in the property for a year and then potentially refinance, pull out some of the equity, and reinvest it on another property. We would repay money borrowed with interest to my inlaws and then they have already said they would like to reinvest that again with us.

    Obviously, borrowing money from family has it's pros and cons and we certainly want to do things the right way. My question is, what is a good structure or terms to borrow from family? (I understand that can vary depending on countless variables) What is a fair interest rate to borrow from family? 8%-12%? 

    Thanks in advance for your feedback. We're newbies trying to join the real estate investing game. I've spent the past year trying to learn, gain knowledge, and analyze deals. And we're ready to take the next step forward towards our first deal.

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  • Chris MasonPro Member
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    Lender · CA · Member since 2015 · 9k+ posts · 10k+ votes
    9y

    That probably doesn't make sense. 

    I randomly plugged in a Bay Area zip code and $500k loan amount, from a random PMI company that I haven't shopped, and this came back:

    Break even on single premium PMI is $9200 / $170 / 12 = 4.5 years.

    The single premium only makes sense if you anticipate that you'd otherwise pay monthly PMI on this specific mortgage for at least 4.5 years. You state that you intend to refinance in a year, so that [ $9200 - $170*12 = $7160 ] would just be poof, gone, never getting it back.

    When I plugged in "refundable" borrower paid single premium PMI, it spit back 3.79% / $19k.

    You can scale up or down from $500k to your correct loan amount... the numbers will differ, the concept and conclusion shouldn't really change.

    Also, can't use borrowed funds for down payment etc. Your parents can borrow the money and gift it to you, but they cannot borrow it and loan it to you. They will be required to sign a promise that the money they are gifting you is a gift, not a loan, and there is no expectation of repayment. 

  • Metairie, LA · Member since 2016 · 74 posts · 16 votes
    9y
    Chris Mason thanks for the tips. The purchase price is 425k for this 4-plex. Thanks for the info on gifting for down payment. So, we'll use our own money for down payment. If we do end up borrowing some of the inlaws money for any repairs or updates...any suggestions on what type of interest percentages we should agree upon?
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