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Tyler H.
  • Santa Clarita, CA
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Anyone here work with John Botros , HML? Advice for all investors

Tyler H.
  • Santa Clarita, CA
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OK, so I was contacted from John Botros here on BP claiming to be able to assist me on my deals.... I have a pretty good fraud radar and right now its going off like crazy.

Flag #1 - Cell # with unusual automated VM message. Here in the states, *most* people and reputable companies will use one of the main cell carriers. 

Flag#2 - When I reversed the phone #, I see it is a VOIP company. Not many good reasons a successful lender would be using this.

Flag#3 - During our conversation, his phone kept cutting out every 2 minutes. He claimed he needed to call customer service to fix, but I think this is some sort of limitation with the VOIP service....

Flag#4 - Kept asking me redundant questions that didnt make sense, showing a lack of knowledge in the lending industry.

Flag#5 - Googling his name came back with a plethora of criminal cases/activity involving this name in other countries. Most relate to fraud. Coincidence? Perhaps.....

Flag#6 - Google "John Botros""bigger pockets" you will see a post by @Matt Motil here warning people about this character and his experiences. The post was since deleted by BP, so you will have to click the small dropdown next to the link on google to view the cashed version. 

BP ADMINS - Why was this post deleted? This fraudster is using BP to reach out to investor and defraud them. I don't think that BP should enable this activity....

So I may be CRAZY, or PARANOID, but who here can vouch for this individual or prove otherwise?

ALL Investors, regardless of who you are working with, ALWAYS do your due diligence and ALWAYS suspect foul activity if you are ever asked to pay for something up front combined with other red flags!! 

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Tyler H.
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Tyler H.
  • Santa Clarita, CA
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OK, so when I search for his name on this site NOTHING other than his market place ads and THIS ad come up. As previously mentioned, I found one through google cache that has since been deleted.....

Naturally my next question is why is BP deleting those posts? It seems BP would want want to safeguard the community...

I vote for a new category for BPers to post their CAUTIONS and reported SCAMS. The RE is a HUGE industry that I am sure is filled with TONS of scammers, fraudsters, and everything in between. It would be invaluable if investors embarking on a new venture could at least reference the community during their due diligence.

Food for thought! Happy Investing friends! Stay cautious....

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