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Updated over 8 years ago, 08/25/2016

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Tyler H.
  • Santa Clarita, CA
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Anyone here work with John Botros , HML? Advice for all investors

Tyler H.
  • Santa Clarita, CA
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OK, so I was contacted from John Botros here on BP claiming to be able to assist me on my deals.... I have a pretty good fraud radar and right now its going off like crazy.

Flag #1 - Cell # with unusual automated VM message. Here in the states, *most* people and reputable companies will use one of the main cell carriers. 

Flag#2 - When I reversed the phone #, I see it is a VOIP company. Not many good reasons a successful lender would be using this.

Flag#3 - During our conversation, his phone kept cutting out every 2 minutes. He claimed he needed to call customer service to fix, but I think this is some sort of limitation with the VOIP service....

Flag#4 - Kept asking me redundant questions that didnt make sense, showing a lack of knowledge in the lending industry.

Flag#5 - Googling his name came back with a plethora of criminal cases/activity involving this name in other countries. Most relate to fraud. Coincidence? Perhaps.....

Flag#6 - Google "John Botros""bigger pockets" you will see a post by @Matt Motil here warning people about this character and his experiences. The post was since deleted by BP, so you will have to click the small dropdown next to the link on google to view the cashed version. 

BP ADMINS - Why was this post deleted? This fraudster is using BP to reach out to investor and defraud them. I don't think that BP should enable this activity....

So I may be CRAZY, or PARANOID, but who here can vouch for this individual or prove otherwise?

ALL Investors, regardless of who you are working with, ALWAYS do your due diligence and ALWAYS suspect foul activity if you are ever asked to pay for something up front combined with other red flags!! 

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