Turning Flips into Holds Financing

Turning Flips into Holds Financing

Real Estate Investor · Anchorage, AK · Member since 2014 · 6 posts · 1 vote

Hello All,

I need help! I have secured my 2nd property this year (and overall). The first one I was able to flip and turn a $20,000 profit and this second one I expect between a $35,000-$45,000 profit on pending any surprises. I am getting them at about 70-75% of ARV and after repairs they are at 75-80%. I am not excited about the fat 39.6% tax bill I am creating for myself (good news bad news about having a good day job). My current financing arrangement is as follows:

I have  a local bank who is giving me essentially a line of credit at 6% paying 1/2 a point and a 6 month call.  I am maxing out what he will give me at 2 properties at a time (approximately $400k).  I believe he would give me 12 month or even 15 month call but I don't believe he will give much more money until I have 5-10 flips under my belt. 

My question is how long do I have to hold onto the property before I could get a long term mortgage to keep the properties as rental properties.  I would want the mortgage to be based off of the new appraised value and not the initial purchase price (after I repair it) so that I can take advantage of the 20-25% equity I have in the property and have minimal or no money out of pocket. This way I can obtain rental income off of them and then ultimately sell at long term capital gains. The initial line of credit does not have a lien attached to the property so I technically own it "free and clear".  Also keeping in mind I don't want to keep my current banks financing for 12 months or more (if possible) because that limits my ability to purchase more properties.  Basically the quicker I can pay back the local bank the better so I can do more deals.

Any guidance is greatly appreciated! 

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  • Real Estate Investor · Turlock, CA · Member since 2013 · 27 posts · 8 votes
    11y
    Seasoning period is different for each lender most will require 6 months to consider new appraised price instead of purchase price. United wholesale mortgage via brokerage has lower seasoning requirements lenders
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    Rental Property Investor · Olympia, WA · Member since 2014 · 781 posts · 744 votes
    11y

    I would definitely talk to your bank that is giving you the line of credit and ask them to convert this home to permanent financing now that it is renovated.  They will probably do an appraisal, etc. But would be in the best position to help your out.

  • Investor, Entrepreneur, Educator · Springfield, MO · Member since 2009 · 21k+ posts · 12k+ votes
    11y

    Try a construction-perm loan. You have your down, a construction loan can be made for the purchase as well as rehab costs based on the plans and specifications being appraised with the purchase. One disbursement is made at settlement, then construction draws. When the project is completed a final appraisal is done (simply verifying the original appraisal) and that amount is the rolled over into an end loan product. Hold time for taxes is one year. Good luck :)

  • Real Estate Investor · Anchorage, AK · Member since 2014 · 6 posts · 1 vote
    11y

    Thank you all for your feedback.  I will see what options the bank has to convert to permanent financing and then look at short seasoning requirement brokers.  I don't know if the construction loan will work because it may take longer for funds initially nullifying my ability to buy with "cash".

  • Lender · Rochester, NY · Member since 2014 · 3k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    11y

    @Steven Perry 

    You have to hold the property for 6 months to go based off of ARV. You can do this for the first four mortgages, then they would have to meet the delayed financing exception.

    Here is a blog I wrote on cash out  refinancing. 

    http://www.biggerpockets.com/blogs/5110/blog_posts...

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