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Updated 5 days ago, 12/11/2024
Private Lending - Passive Losses on Schedule E
Hi All,
Is there any way to structure a private lending arrangement so that income is considered passive (by IRS standards) and can offset accumulated schedule E losses? Perhaps as a syndication or credit fund?
Quote from @Harsha G.:
Hi All,
Is there any way to structure a private lending arrangement so that income is considered passive (by IRS standards) and can offset accumulated schedule E losses? Perhaps as a syndication or credit fund?
In 8+ years the answer to us has always been No. Its interest income - unless you wanted to run it through a C corp but then you pay corp tax first.
Other option is to use a deferred retirement account.
- Chris Seveney
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It potentially can be possible if you provide your capital to a fund who operates as a private lender.
You would have to be a non-managing member in an LLC or an LP in a Partnership.
Therefore, you would have no say in items such as who to lend the money to, at what rates, etc.
Best of luck
- Basit Siddiqi
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@Harsha G. Unfortunately, private lending income is not considered passive by IRS standards and generally cannot offset accumulated Schedule E passive losses. Interest income is portfolio income. If you run a lending as business, your interest will convert to ordinary income and could be passive based on your involvement.
Here’s why and what alternatives might exist:
- Real Estate Syndication or Fund: Invest in funds that generate passive rental income, which can offset Schedule E losses.
- Real Estate Professional (REPS): Qualify for REPS to reclassify rental losses as non-passive, allowing them to offset active income.
This post does not create a CPA-Client relationship. The information contained in this post is not to be relied upon. Readers should seek professional advice.
- Ashish Acharya
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Structuring private lending as passive income can be tricky since the IRS typically classifies interest income as portfolio income rather than passive. However, participating in a syndication or fund tied to real estate activities might help if the income flows through as rental or pass-through income. Consulting a tax professional is key to ensuring compliance and maximizing benefits.
I don’t see a way where this would be passive income. Like others in the post, interest income is portfolio income.
What you can do is invest a self directed IRA/roth and put this money into notes. The account will grow tax deferred.
Quote from @Harsha G.:
Hi All,
Is there any way to structure a private lending arrangement so that income is considered passive (by IRS standards) and can offset accumulated schedule E losses? Perhaps as a syndication or credit fund?
- Ian Ippolito
yes that's possible !