Skip to content
×
PRO
Pro Members Get Full Access!
Get off the sidelines and take action in real estate investing with BiggerPockets Pro. Our comprehensive suite of tools and resources minimize mistakes, support informed decisions, and propel you to success.
Advanced networking features
Market and Deal Finder tools
Property analysis calculators
Landlord Command Center
$0
TODAY
$69.00/month when billed monthly.
$32.50/month when billed annually.
7 day free trial. Cancel anytime
Already a Pro Member? Sign in here

Join Over 3 Million Real Estate Investors

Create a free BiggerPockets account to comment, participate, and connect with over 3 million real estate investors.
Use your real name
By signing up, you indicate that you agree to the BiggerPockets Terms & Conditions.
The community here is like my own little personal real estate army that I can depend upon to help me through ANY problems I come across.
General Real Estate Investing
All Forum Categories
Followed Discussions
Followed Categories
Followed People
Followed Locations
Market News & Data
General Info
Real Estate Strategies
Landlording & Rental Properties
Real Estate Professionals
Financial, Tax, & Legal
Real Estate Classifieds
Reviews & Feedback

Updated about 5 years ago,

User Stats

52
Posts
12
Votes
Jim Truman
12
Votes |
52
Posts

How do these numbers sound? Low priced condo

Jim Truman
Posted

Hello,

I am curious to know your thoughts on an investment. On the surface it sounds great, but we're thinking about passing on it and I want to make sure I'm not crazy. We are new to investing, having just purchased our first property in August, so we definitely weren't planning on buying a second one this soon. But my Realtor found this one and that it might work for us. We are out of state so we are using Property Management. 

2 Bedroom, 1 bath, great storage, 1000 sq feet, could probably get it for $55,000.

It's a 3rd floor unit in a development with maybe 10, apartment style, buildings. 

Unit was remodeled very nicely by current owner (a Realtor/investor.) The unit is beautiful but he didn't put a dishwasher in the kitchen. The older units in the building all have dishwashers. 

The development has a large garage so it comes with 2 parking spaces.

It's in a solid B area and is actually walk-able to a shopping development with Whole Foods. Great universities nearby as well.

HOA is $250/mo but this includes water.

Our Realtor believes we could get $900/mo.

On the surface, this seems great. But we believe, and he agrees, this will probably be a high turnover type of tenant. And although he doesn't think no dishwasher is a concern, we believe the type of tenant that we'd like to attract, that would pay a little premium for such a nicely finished unit, would get annoyed with not having a dishwasher. This will increase turnover. The unit also only has an in-the-wall air conditioner in the family room. I don't know how well these work to cool a whole unit.

The cashflow seems great until I throw in costs for an annual turnover. (Vacancy, cleaning, listing fees, PM's finder fees, etc.) Once these expenses are included, it has an annual cashflow of only 940. A Cash on Cash of 6.8%. This might not be terrible but really doesn't leave any wiggle room in case it doesn't actually rent for 900, HOA goes up, maintenance, etc.

This unit probably won't appreciate all that much either.

Are we missing something here? Hard to believe a beautiful 55k unit that rents for 900 is a bad deal. Our Realtor just picked a unit up in this development so he's confident in the unit as a rental. But, he doesn't have to pay the PM expenses which totally changes the math.

We're thinking maybe wait for another unit in this development that hasn't been remodeled so nicely, with a dishwasher, that we could maybe pick up for 30, and put 10 into painting, new floors, etc, and will still rent in the 800's might be a better option?

Looking forward to your thoughts.

Thanks

Loading replies...