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Erik Kubec
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Strict definition of 50% rule?

Erik Kubec
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Denver, CO
Posted

Really thought I would have an easier time finding a consistent definition of this by googling.

Can someone lay out for me what of the following goes into the expense part of the 50% ratio?:

[/u]Hard, real costs (eg $$$ being paid out)[u]
Principal Payment
Interest Payment
Property Insurance Payment
Property taxes
Mortgage Insurance
Management fees
Marketing fees
Remodeling expenses
Repair expenses

[u]soft costs: real but not $$$ paid out):
Vacancy adjustment

Additionally, should I be pretty happy if my rental property rents at twice PITI?

Example: (Principal, interest, insurance + taxes) X 2 = Rental price that tenant has signed up to pay ?

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Jon Holdman
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Jon Holdman
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The "50% number" includes three things:

1) expenses per the IRS definition - money you spend in one year that can be deducted in that year. Things like property managment, insurance of all sorts, taxes, maintennace, legal costs, CPA costs, tenant damage above security deposits, lawn care, snow removal, etc.
2) capital - money you spend in one year but that has to be depreciated. Things like roof and furnaces. Note that we're talking about the cash you spend on this item, not the depreciaion from it that goes on your taxes
3) vacancy - money you never manage to collect. May be actual or economic. Actual is rent not collected because the place is vacant. Economic is a discount you give (e.g., half month free for move in) or an ongoing discount (e.g., pricing your unit below market rents.)

Principle and Interest payments are NOT included in the 50%.

This is also a long term average. Any property in any particular year will vary, possible widely. The total for 20 properties for 20 years will be pretty close.

Property management is a significant componet. If you self manage and do it for free, your income will be higher. But realize you are earning part of the income by being a PM (and, often, handyman.)

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