Investment Property - refinance to 15yr or 30yr?

Investment Property - refinance to 15yr or 30yr?

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Hello all. My wife and I bought a condo in NYC in the fall of 2023. Our goal has always been to use this condo as a primary residence for 3-4 years and then rent it out afterwards (we're planning to move out of state in 2026-2027). Given we bought this condo at the time when the fixed 30yr mortgages were really high, we ended up going with a 7yr ARM option at 6.375%, hoping the rates would go down to at least mid 5% by 2025 - 2026. I believe that most (if not all) lenders will require us to stay in this property for at least 1 year after we refinance it to a new fixed rate (maybe that's not actually true though since we've been in this property for 15+ months already?). Given that restriction and our plan to move out of state in the next 15 - 24 months, we would like to refinance our mortgage as soon as possible, especially now that the rates are finally declining a little bit. The lender I'm working with offered me a 6.625% 30yr option or 5.625% 15yr option (both options assume no points). I'm not particularly excited about refinancing to a 6.625% rate given I currently have a 6.375% rate with ~5.5 years remaining on the ARM mortgage, however, given the principal amount is now a little lower than when we got the original mortgage, the actual monthly payment will be very similar to our current mortgage payment. Given the 1.000% difference between the 30yr and 15yr options, we're strongly considering refinancing to the 15yr option. Based on my quick math, if we go with the 30yr option and save ~$1070 in monthly payments for the next 15 years (this is based on ~$580k of currently outstanding mortgage), we would need to invest that ~$1070 at a ~9.8% compounded rate in order to be able to break even between those two options i.e. fully pay off the 30yr mortgage at the end of year 15. This seems to be a pretty high return when compared to historical stock market returns. For context, my wife and I have pretty large emergency savings / cash reserves, so we're not particularly worried about the default risk. We're more concerned about the restriction to live in this condo for at least 12 months after we refinance it as we don't want to move out of state first and then be forced to refinance this condo using the investment property mortgage as those rates are significantly higher than the primary residence mortgage rates. One additional consideration is that we're in the 35% tax bracket, so if we go with the 30yr option, we could take advantage of the tax savings (~$100 - $250 per month for the next 5-8 years depending on how quickly IRS will increase the standard deduction limits).

In an ideal scenario, we would refinance this condo in the next 1-3 months, live in it for 12-21 months and then rent it out. Towards the end of that period we would buy a new house out of state and live in it for the next 15-20 years at least. Once the condo is rented out, that would help us offset the mortgage payment (or at least a large portion of it) for the purposes of the DTI calculation, and hopefully allow us to buy another investment property in the future.

I understand most people on this forum prefer the 30yr mortgage option (with flexibility to potentially pay it off within 15 years), however given the above context, do you think we should consider the 15yr mortgage instead? Thank you very much for your help.

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  • Taylor DaschBusiness Member
    Real Estate Agent · Temple, TX · Member since 2022 · 1k+ posts · 700 votes
    1y

    Definitely the 30 year makes sense because you can always pay the difference and make it a 15 year but you dont HAVE to pay it. The interest rate difference shouldnt be that much either. 

  • Real Estate Agent · St Petersburg, FL · Member since 2019 · 320 posts · 182 votes
    1y

    Quick thoughts:

    1. Confirm with lender what the occupancy requirements are after refinance. 

    2. Have you run numbers of the home as a rental using today's rents? Include vacancy/opex/reserves etc. Does it make sense as a rental on 30y or 15y mortgage?  Generally investors want to go with 30y as above comment shared.  If it doesn't work as rental - is there strong appreciation and do you have reserves to cover the difference?

  • Member since 2025 · 2 posts · 0 votes
    1y

    Thank you for the quick responses. I'm currently leaning towards a 30yr mortgage given the flexibility it offers, as well as the fact that it would allow us to take advantage of higher tax deductions. That being said, the 15yr mortgage option that has an interest rate that is 1.000% lower is also an interesting option to consider.

    I ran the numbers assuming we rent this condo out, and we would be slightly cash flow negative for a few years with the 30yr mortgage, however, given the condo is located in NYC I'm expecting pretty strong appreciation over the years (it's appreciated 6-7% since we bought it in Sep'23).

  • Real Estate Broker · New York, NY · Member since 2020 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    1y

    Sounds like you’ve put a lot of thought into this—great job running the numbers! Given your situation, I see both pros and cons to the 15-year vs. 30-year mortgage.

    The 15-year option makes sense if you’re comfortable with the higher payments and want to build equity faster. Since you're planning to rent the condo in 1-2 years, a lower rate could also mean better cash flow once you transition to being a landlord. That said, tying up more money in the mortgage might limit flexibility, especially if you plan to buy another home out of state soon.

    On the flip side, the 30-year mortgage gives you breathing room. Even though the rate isn’t ideal, you’d have the option to pay it off aggressively while keeping cash available for other investments (or unexpected expenses). Plus, in your tax bracket, the added interest deduction could help offset some of the cost.

    One thing to double-check is the occupancy requirement after refinancing. If you've already lived there for 15+ months, some lenders may not require another full year post-refi—definitely worth clarifying before making a decision.

    At the end of the day, it comes down to how comfortable you are with a higher fixed payment vs. keeping extra liquidity. Either way, you’re making a smart move by locking in a lower rate before rates potentially shift again.

    Hope this helps—good luck! 🚀

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