If You Never Want To Hear About Columbus In the Forums Again, Reply Here

[Jonathan Greene]

Do you feel continuously assaulted by the Columbus Mafia on BiggerPockets?

If any newbie utters the word Columbus, Midwest, or Ohio, the entire brokerage descends upon the forums with post after post. It's absolute madness. I believe this behavior also goes over the DMs.

In the beginning, it was funny. Now, it is spammy. If you read the majority of the replies by the Columbus Mafia, it's only about Columbus or the general area. Some of the responders know more than others, but some are just complete spammers. It's a strategy.

I've been answering questions on BiggerPockets for 10 years and never once asked for business or DM'd for business. People find me because I answer questions, sometimes about the area, most of the time about investing. If we built a spreadsheet of the overall responses from the Mafia and how many were veiled attempts at business, I would bet it is close to 80 percent.

I know I am not the only one annoyed every day, so please post your thoughts here so BiggerPockets can review them.

I do know someone who bought multiple properties with a former Mafia member and the properties are still performing so this isn't a referenda on how good the agents are. I have not personally worked with them. What this is about is the constant and unabashed spam sham on every post that mentions anything even close to Ohio. Like maybe just round robin it, bros. Watching you all post after each other is embarrassing.

[Jonathan Greene]

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Here is the recording of me and @Remington Lyman discussing the issue like two fully grown adults.

https://fathom.video/share/MNscSw4vQsx65fmzexEsuTDk7CJB5QLU?...

 After watching this Remi is a lot less unlikeable than I thought. Actually seem like a pretty intelligent guy. Which leads me to my point and some unsolicited feedback for you Remi. No agenda, I don't like helping out the competition either, so this is probably the one and only time I will do anything other than try to cut you off at the knees.

My honest assessment on you after your interview is that you should fire all 38 of your agents. You remind me of me running HoltonWise like 7 years ago. Dunno the number, but had 70-80 Agents working for me at one point or another. I was miserable, just like you sound. Agents can't be controlled. They run around doing stupid stuff and hurt your good name. Hell, I realized I don't even think I've personally had a bad experience with you, but I don't like you. Why? Cuz of all these 20 years old's running around hurting your brand. 

You sound like you are caught up in the Agent count trap that I was caught up in. As a Broker we get caught up in all the commission we can earn from them but in today's game, what are these dorks getting from us? 90%+? It ain't worth it brother. What can these 20 year old's really do for you other than give you an ulcer? I imagine most leads that come into Reafco are generated from the brand and passed out to the Agents. Or if they are not, the only reason your Agents are getting BP leads themselves is because you are limiting your own posting so you can let them have the ball so to speak. But you, me, and everyone else is aware you are better at it than they are anyway. 

So in summary you should do what I did and get rid of all of them and take control of your brand. You can hire hourly staff with bonus incentives to help you do your volume. This way you can control your brand. The day I went from having a ton of Agents to not having Agents was the greatest day in my career. Income took a small dip for like a year then went higher than it ever did with all the Agents who are really nothing more than a drag on a talented young Broker.

Anyways brother, that's my $.02, take it or leave it, but that's enough helping out the competition for me. I'll be going back to busting your balls and attempting to take away any shred of market share you have worked yourself into up in my neck of the woods.

Yeah, I've been in touch with @Remington Lyman before and that's why I wanted to record it. I know he isn't a representation of what the current thought about his agents is. This is very good advice. Take my take too:

I ran a team, not a brokerage, of 50 agents. Early this year I fired all of them on the same day because I was doing the majority of the work, the didn't take training and coaching well, and the main thing was that their CAPACITY was tiny. They could only handle 1 or 2 clients at a time so the rest would go to crap. I didn't want them to tarnish my name or for me to have to clean up their messes anymore or just have to keep on them to do their job with my leads.

When you have people like @V.G Jason pop in and tell @Sam McCormack what he is doing is ok, that isn't helping. People like VG don't read anything and just look for more people to like them in the forums. If you read the original post and watch the video recording, I was never out to get ReafCo, I was providing sound coaching advice in a humourous fashion and it was backed by many, many people messaging me about them. I am trying to help. If you can't take criticism, you should quit all business and hide in the sand.

What to take from this post, which always goes bonkers when people try to play, is that there is a better way to do things on here and in turn, that will help these agents get better business and build a better reputation and not tarnish a whole company's profile because they spam.

 Isn't firing all your Agents the greatest thing in the world? It's so freeing when you open your eyes to how much better your business can be without them lol. The only time I think about hiring back my Agents is so I can get the joy of firing them all again. Agents are not like other employees. Agents want you to support them like an employee, but they will never respect you as their boss. They quickly forget about the support you've given them and only look to edge you out of as much commission split as possible.

It's really a lose lose for small independent Brokers these days. The majority of your Agents will be trash, so you'll spend more time money and effort trying to get them to become productive Agents. Most will fail, and the few that succeed will quickly want a split like they can get at EXP or some other 100% brokerage...........Nooooo thanks bro. Especially in the investor game when physical property tours aren't really necessary to sell properties.

Yes to all of this. My business is lean, strong, and focused on just what I want now. If I were in his spot, I would fire all the agents who needed any hand holding and only keep people doing 20 deals on their own from their own leads. He said he was doing over 100 deals on his own, he doesn't need agents at his brokerage. Take their space and hire admins to go with the VAs and have 2 showing assistants who get paid a salary and done.

[Michael P.]

That would be funny if Remington completely revamped his business model and transformed his life because of this thread. 

[Jonathan Greene]

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That would be funny if Remington completely revamped his business model and transformed his life because of this thread. 

There is always a lesson inside a thread that goes bananas on BP.

[V.G Jason]

Quote from @Jonathan Greene:

Quote from @James Wise:

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Here is the recording of me and @Remington Lyman discussing the issue like two fully grown adults.

https://fathom.video/share/MNscSw4vQsx65fmzexEsuTDk7CJB5QLU?...

 After watching this Remi is a lot less unlikeable than I thought. Actually seem like a pretty intelligent guy. Which leads me to my point and some unsolicited feedback for you Remi. No agenda, I don't like helping out the competition either, so this is probably the one and only time I will do anything other than try to cut you off at the knees.

My honest assessment on you after your interview is that you should fire all 38 of your agents. You remind me of me running HoltonWise like 7 years ago. Dunno the number, but had 70-80 Agents working for me at one point or another. I was miserable, just like you sound. Agents can't be controlled. They run around doing stupid stuff and hurt your good name. Hell, I realized I don't even think I've personally had a bad experience with you, but I don't like you. Why? Cuz of all these 20 years old's running around hurting your brand. 

You sound like you are caught up in the Agent count trap that I was caught up in. As a Broker we get caught up in all the commission we can earn from them but in today's game, what are these dorks getting from us? 90%+? It ain't worth it brother. What can these 20 year old's really do for you other than give you an ulcer? I imagine most leads that come into Reafco are generated from the brand and passed out to the Agents. Or if they are not, the only reason your Agents are getting BP leads themselves is because you are limiting your own posting so you can let them have the ball so to speak. But you, me, and everyone else is aware you are better at it than they are anyway. 

So in summary you should do what I did and get rid of all of them and take control of your brand. You can hire hourly staff with bonus incentives to help you do your volume. This way you can control your brand. The day I went from having a ton of Agents to not having Agents was the greatest day in my career. Income took a small dip for like a year then went higher than it ever did with all the Agents who are really nothing more than a drag on a talented young Broker.

Anyways brother, that's my $.02, take it or leave it, but that's enough helping out the competition for me. I'll be going back to busting your balls and attempting to take away any shred of market share you have worked yourself into up in my neck of the woods.

Yeah, I've been in touch with @Remington Lyman before and that's why I wanted to record it. I know he isn't a representation of what the current thought about his agents is. This is very good advice. Take my take too:

I ran a team, not a brokerage, of 50 agents. Early this year I fired all of them on the same day because I was doing the majority of the work, the didn't take training and coaching well, and the main thing was that their CAPACITY was tiny. They could only handle 1 or 2 clients at a time so the rest would go to crap. I didn't want them to tarnish my name or for me to have to clean up their messes anymore or just have to keep on them to do their job with my leads.

When you have people like @V.G Jason pop in and tell @Sam McCormack what he is doing is ok, that isn't helping. People like VG don't read anything and just look for more people to like them in the forums. If you read the original post and watch the video recording, I was never out to get ReafCo, I was providing sound coaching advice in a humourous fashion and it was backed by many, many people messaging me about them. I am trying to help. If you can't take criticism, you should quit all business and hide in the sand.

What to take from this post, which always goes bonkers when people try to play, is that there is a better way to do things on here and in turn, that will help these agents get better business and build a better reputation and not tarnish a whole company's profile because they spam.

Was going to comment about myself, cause it's wrong but no need to. This guy says it all without even asking for it.

 If you have to fire 50 people, because their capacity was tiny and they didn't take training & coaching well--- you are the problem. Not them. So much for the "Zen"....

[V.G Jason]

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Insane the amount of people upset about someone just advertising themselves/market. Oh yeah it gets annoying for sure, but hey, this post was made just to talk about Columbus? Hey doesn't sound like bad press to me!

Spectating is the best side to be on here, lol. I wish y'all the best in your head to head!

This is a terrible attitude about it. What happens is that new investors come in looking for someone who knows something, investors who know something, investors who invest themselves...but sometimes what they get is alleged investor-friendly agents who don't invest and don't work with investors much, but know other agents who do. So they use broad strokes to entice new people to talk to them, but they don't have the knowledge or expertise to do the job. The forums are not for advertising yourself or marketing, that is against the terms. They are for adding value and helping other people.

This is everything that this original post is about, but Cincinnati. Look at what the poster is asking for (invest anywhere in the US) and look at the response which is definitely considered self-promotion in the forum. It was a fair response until the last sentence about shooting him a message. This explains what is wrong. Stop asking for business and earn it.

 This is earning it. It isn't asking for business, it is reaching out to someone to earn their business. 

My question for you is why are you so upset about someone asking about connecting and trying to see if my market fits their needs?

If you are asking for business, you aren't earning it. It's online begging. Your sales record isn't terrible over the past two years, 13 sales. That's pretty good. You don't need to ask someone to connect and see if it's a fit. You need to provide an answer to their question without a connection request. I'm sure you DMd and you should not. But, you also have no online reviews from those 13 transactions - so what does that tell you? Either you are bad at follow-up with your clients and forget about them after closing or you don't think it's important. But the first place people will look is your Zillow profile.

 I normally don't request my clients leave me a review on BiggerPockets, I do it via my team. Close or no close, I call every one of my leads, closed or not, every 2 months to see how they are doing. And those 13 are this year so far, it doesn't seem like I have updated that recently enough. So to answer if I am bad at follow up or don't care about my clients, the answer is neither, thank you

I was talking about Zillow, not BiggerPockets. You have 13 closed sales and no reviews on Zillow. So, those 13 clients weren't impressed enough (or reminded) to write a review on the most public buyer site out there.

And no, they are not all this year. Zillow updates automatically now because it is tied to the MLS. You can't update them.

Look, you clearly are clueless about this, but not about real estate since you have sales. But you are like the new generation of real estate investors who only like pats on the back and can't take any criticism. You look worse every time you answer me so it would be best for your business to stop.

Two things come to mind when I read your response:

1. The Key and Peele Substitute Teacher skit where Mr. Garvey says "Oh, I see. You want to play?" If you keep responding, you will keep digging yourself a bigger hole. If you are up for that, let's go.

2. When an NBA player makes the too little sign after dunking on someone. This will keep happening. Stop yourself. Your post in the other forum was flagged and was grabby. Do better.

 Can you answer the message I sent you please? 

You're a kid. So take a lesson, from an elder.

Don't engage back, sometimes the most powerful instrument is silence. The world will go round and shape one's that push back. It always happens, maybe not today or tomorrow but it'll come. Trust me you don't go through no highs, without dealing with some lows. This dude is on a trip-- a power one thinking he's making a movement too. **** out of here with that thinking. 

Let him bark at you, just keep strolling by. Don't send him a message or engage in his ********. He thinks he's on top of something and degrading you, you don't give your time to folks that disrespect you. Give your time to the game. What you did is fine, it wasn't like the Columbus Cartel nonsense we see. Is it cringy, sure, but so is a lot of small elevator pitches. It is what it is. I ain't going to hate on it. 

Power trip in a forum? Good lord, you people take things too seriously and come to people's defense as if they have been offended in some way. I am giving all of the agents who do this a blueprint for success on BiggerPockets and a highlight to what could get them banned.

You must be someone who just likes to hop into the middle of things. You are only promoting participation trophies and rationalizing poor marketing. If they all just follow an easier path and stop spamming on posts or asking for business and focus on adding value only, they will get 5x the business.

 You're the one that hired 50 people, just to fire them. Then question if you are on a power trip?

You ain't the one to tell people how to act and move. You're the one that needs to listen and behave. I've hired more people than you fired, rather than trying to take potshots at me back. Go read up a bit, you'll learn more in passing than you will listening to your own echo.

Zen my ***, bro. You're a cupcake, and if you keep barking up this tree you'll get the wrong dog. 

I am not here to save anybody, I am simply telling the youngster here's a hand up not a foot down. You struggle with managing relationships and understanding human behavior, go read some of your own posts. The cringy introvert one is embarrassing, do you not grasp you're out of touch? You keep acting like this, you're going to see some issues coming so I suggest you keep it trim. This is the internet, so it's forever, and you're looking like a damn fool.

[Jonathan Greene]

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Insane the amount of people upset about someone just advertising themselves/market. Oh yeah it gets annoying for sure, but hey, this post was made just to talk about Columbus? Hey doesn't sound like bad press to me!

Spectating is the best side to be on here, lol. I wish y'all the best in your head to head!

This is a terrible attitude about it. What happens is that new investors come in looking for someone who knows something, investors who know something, investors who invest themselves...but sometimes what they get is alleged investor-friendly agents who don't invest and don't work with investors much, but know other agents who do. So they use broad strokes to entice new people to talk to them, but they don't have the knowledge or expertise to do the job. The forums are not for advertising yourself or marketing, that is against the terms. They are for adding value and helping other people.

This is everything that this original post is about, but Cincinnati. Look at what the poster is asking for (invest anywhere in the US) and look at the response which is definitely considered self-promotion in the forum. It was a fair response until the last sentence about shooting him a message. This explains what is wrong. Stop asking for business and earn it.

 This is earning it. It isn't asking for business, it is reaching out to someone to earn their business. 

My question for you is why are you so upset about someone asking about connecting and trying to see if my market fits their needs?

If you are asking for business, you aren't earning it. It's online begging. Your sales record isn't terrible over the past two years, 13 sales. That's pretty good. You don't need to ask someone to connect and see if it's a fit. You need to provide an answer to their question without a connection request. I'm sure you DMd and you should not. But, you also have no online reviews from those 13 transactions - so what does that tell you? Either you are bad at follow-up with your clients and forget about them after closing or you don't think it's important. But the first place people will look is your Zillow profile.

 I normally don't request my clients leave me a review on BiggerPockets, I do it via my team. Close or no close, I call every one of my leads, closed or not, every 2 months to see how they are doing. And those 13 are this year so far, it doesn't seem like I have updated that recently enough. So to answer if I am bad at follow up or don't care about my clients, the answer is neither, thank you

I was talking about Zillow, not BiggerPockets. You have 13 closed sales and no reviews on Zillow. So, those 13 clients weren't impressed enough (or reminded) to write a review on the most public buyer site out there.

And no, they are not all this year. Zillow updates automatically now because it is tied to the MLS. You can't update them.

Look, you clearly are clueless about this, but not about real estate since you have sales. But you are like the new generation of real estate investors who only like pats on the back and can't take any criticism. You look worse every time you answer me so it would be best for your business to stop.

Two things come to mind when I read your response:

1. The Key and Peele Substitute Teacher skit where Mr. Garvey says "Oh, I see. You want to play?" If you keep responding, you will keep digging yourself a bigger hole. If you are up for that, let's go.

2. When an NBA player makes the too little sign after dunking on someone. This will keep happening. Stop yourself. Your post in the other forum was flagged and was grabby. Do better.

 Can you answer the message I sent you please? 

You're a kid. So take a lesson, from an elder.

Don't engage back, sometimes the most powerful instrument is silence. The world will go round and shape one's that push back. It always happens, maybe not today or tomorrow but it'll come. Trust me you don't go through no highs, without dealing with some lows. This dude is on a trip-- a power one thinking he's making a movement too. **** out of here with that thinking. 

Let him bark at you, just keep strolling by. Don't send him a message or engage in his ********. He thinks he's on top of something and degrading you, you don't give your time to folks that disrespect you. Give your time to the game. What you did is fine, it wasn't like the Columbus Cartel nonsense we see. Is it cringy, sure, but so is a lot of small elevator pitches. It is what it is. I ain't going to hate on it. 

Power trip in a forum? Good lord, you people take things too seriously and come to people's defense as if they have been offended in some way. I am giving all of the agents who do this a blueprint for success on BiggerPockets and a highlight to what could get them banned.

You must be someone who just likes to hop into the middle of things. You are only promoting participation trophies and rationalizing poor marketing. If they all just follow an easier path and stop spamming on posts or asking for business and focus on adding value only, they will get 5x the business.

 You're the one that hired 50 people, just to fire them. Then question if you are on a power trip?

You ain't the one to tell people how to act and move. You're the one that needs to listen and behave. I've hired more people than you fired, rather than trying to take potshots at me back. Go read up a bit, you'll learn more in passing than you will listening to your own echo.

Zen my ***, bro. You're a cupcake, and if you keep barking up this tree you'll get the wrong dog. 

I am not here to save anybody, I am simply telling the youngster here's a hand up not a foot down. You struggle with managing relationships and understanding human behavior, go read some of your own posts. The cringy introvert one is embarrassing, do you not grasp you're out of touch? You keep acting like this, you're going to see some issues coming so I suggest you keep it trim. This is the internet, so it's forever, and you're looking like a damn fool.

I am an open book. There's nothing to hide like you with your excellent profile pic, so I always stand by everything I say. There is no cringe or embarrassment in me because I have nothing to feel that way for. I have been here in the forums for ten years doing the same thing so I am not quite sure what issues you think are coming, but I am here for them. Bring it. Do you want to hop on a recorded Zoom and go over these things also? We can post it in here and then others can judge the cringe meter for themselves? I will be waiting for a yes.

You don't even read what you write. You are a typical internet anonymous troll who pops in and out and sauces the forums with their perspective and looks outward and not inward. Being an introvert and trying to help other people navigate a conference is not cringe, it's helpful for those who get overwhelmed by trying to do small talk.

I will bark up this tree every day so let's have a regular conversation on Zoom so I can see what you got and everyone else can too. I am not worried about getting the wrong dog in any way. I am thinking more puppy at this point.

[Chris John]

I was trying to ignore this ridiculous thread, but against my better judgement, I'll bite. 

@Jonathan Greene

You seem like a "Mom of the Road" type that completely ignores the concept of a fast lane, goes 60, and makes the world go around you because you're going "fast enough already". 

At what point did anyone ask for the coaching advice that you doled out on this thread?

[V.G Jason]

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Insane the amount of people upset about someone just advertising themselves/market. Oh yeah it gets annoying for sure, but hey, this post was made just to talk about Columbus? Hey doesn't sound like bad press to me!

Spectating is the best side to be on here, lol. I wish y'all the best in your head to head!

This is a terrible attitude about it. What happens is that new investors come in looking for someone who knows something, investors who know something, investors who invest themselves...but sometimes what they get is alleged investor-friendly agents who don't invest and don't work with investors much, but know other agents who do. So they use broad strokes to entice new people to talk to them, but they don't have the knowledge or expertise to do the job. The forums are not for advertising yourself or marketing, that is against the terms. They are for adding value and helping other people.

This is everything that this original post is about, but Cincinnati. Look at what the poster is asking for (invest anywhere in the US) and look at the response which is definitely considered self-promotion in the forum. It was a fair response until the last sentence about shooting him a message. This explains what is wrong. Stop asking for business and earn it.

 This is earning it. It isn't asking for business, it is reaching out to someone to earn their business. 

My question for you is why are you so upset about someone asking about connecting and trying to see if my market fits their needs?

If you are asking for business, you aren't earning it. It's online begging. Your sales record isn't terrible over the past two years, 13 sales. That's pretty good. You don't need to ask someone to connect and see if it's a fit. You need to provide an answer to their question without a connection request. I'm sure you DMd and you should not. But, you also have no online reviews from those 13 transactions - so what does that tell you? Either you are bad at follow-up with your clients and forget about them after closing or you don't think it's important. But the first place people will look is your Zillow profile.

 I normally don't request my clients leave me a review on BiggerPockets, I do it via my team. Close or no close, I call every one of my leads, closed or not, every 2 months to see how they are doing. And those 13 are this year so far, it doesn't seem like I have updated that recently enough. So to answer if I am bad at follow up or don't care about my clients, the answer is neither, thank you

I was talking about Zillow, not BiggerPockets. You have 13 closed sales and no reviews on Zillow. So, those 13 clients weren't impressed enough (or reminded) to write a review on the most public buyer site out there.

And no, they are not all this year. Zillow updates automatically now because it is tied to the MLS. You can't update them.

Look, you clearly are clueless about this, but not about real estate since you have sales. But you are like the new generation of real estate investors who only like pats on the back and can't take any criticism. You look worse every time you answer me so it would be best for your business to stop.

Two things come to mind when I read your response:

1. The Key and Peele Substitute Teacher skit where Mr. Garvey says "Oh, I see. You want to play?" If you keep responding, you will keep digging yourself a bigger hole. If you are up for that, let's go.

2. When an NBA player makes the too little sign after dunking on someone. This will keep happening. Stop yourself. Your post in the other forum was flagged and was grabby. Do better.

 Can you answer the message I sent you please? 

You're a kid. So take a lesson, from an elder.

Don't engage back, sometimes the most powerful instrument is silence. The world will go round and shape one's that push back. It always happens, maybe not today or tomorrow but it'll come. Trust me you don't go through no highs, without dealing with some lows. This dude is on a trip-- a power one thinking he's making a movement too. **** out of here with that thinking. 

Let him bark at you, just keep strolling by. Don't send him a message or engage in his ********. He thinks he's on top of something and degrading you, you don't give your time to folks that disrespect you. Give your time to the game. What you did is fine, it wasn't like the Columbus Cartel nonsense we see. Is it cringy, sure, but so is a lot of small elevator pitches. It is what it is. I ain't going to hate on it. 

Power trip in a forum? Good lord, you people take things too seriously and come to people's defense as if they have been offended in some way. I am giving all of the agents who do this a blueprint for success on BiggerPockets and a highlight to what could get them banned.

You must be someone who just likes to hop into the middle of things. You are only promoting participation trophies and rationalizing poor marketing. If they all just follow an easier path and stop spamming on posts or asking for business and focus on adding value only, they will get 5x the business.

 You're the one that hired 50 people, just to fire them. Then question if you are on a power trip?

You ain't the one to tell people how to act and move. You're the one that needs to listen and behave. I've hired more people than you fired, rather than trying to take potshots at me back. Go read up a bit, you'll learn more in passing than you will listening to your own echo.

Zen my ***, bro. You're a cupcake, and if you keep barking up this tree you'll get the wrong dog. 

I am not here to save anybody, I am simply telling the youngster here's a hand up not a foot down. You struggle with managing relationships and understanding human behavior, go read some of your own posts. The cringy introvert one is embarrassing, do you not grasp you're out of touch? You keep acting like this, you're going to see some issues coming so I suggest you keep it trim. This is the internet, so it's forever, and you're looking like a damn fool.

I am an open book. There's nothing to hide like you with your excellent profile pic, so I always stand by everything I say. There is no cringe or embarrassment in me because I have nothing to feel that way for. I have been here in the forums for ten years doing the same thing so I am not quite sure what issues you think are coming, but I am here for them. Bring it. Do you want to hop on a recorded Zoom and go over these things also? We can post it in here and then others can judge the cringe meter for themselves? I will be waiting for a yes.

You don't even read what you write. You are a typical internet anonymous troll who pops in and out and sauces the forums with their perspective and looks outward and not inward. Being an introvert and trying to help other people navigate a conference is not cringe, it's helpful for those who get overwhelmed by trying to do small talk.

I will bark up this tree every day so let's have a regular conversation on Zoom so I can see what you got and everyone else can too. I am not worried about getting the wrong dog in any way. I am thinking more puppy at this point.

 You can keep waiting for that yes, just like Dave Meyers is waiting for me to give a call back when I called out his quality over quantity nonsense.  Much like him, you're just tripping on your feelings. I got time to post on here, you think I got time to talk back  and forth about your failing businesses, desperation for attention on BP forums, and your staunch views against the columbus cartel? 

Get a grip, ain't no one getting on a call for that. We can debate it here at our convenience, not much to debate though. You're just another sleazy salesmen. 

Coaching business is failing, streamlined business is on it's last legs, posting 4-5x day new threads trying to catch the validation. I can go on, but your actions speak to the true underlying problem and that's you.  Diving your businesses down daily like the titanic. 

Final take-- your reality is everyone around you is a problem, but the reality is you're the problem.

[Jonathan Greene]

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I was trying to ignore this ridiculous thread, but against my better judgement, I'll bite. 

@Jonathan Greene

You seem like a "Mom of the Road" type that completely ignores the concept of a fast lane, goes 60, and makes the world go around you because you're going "fast enough already". 

At what point did anyone ask for the coaching advice that you doled out on this thread?

Huh? I think you should have trusted your better judgment. The "Mom of the Road" reference doesn't make any sense, but thanks for weighing in.

Since you asked, countless people I know have been complaining about this for a long time.

And as usual, the guy who hops into the chat 5 pages in never has a profile photo. If you read the chat, there are very few people who disagree with me, so what was your hope in unfurling your two cents here? I am open to it, but I don't have a clue what you are talking about.

Most advice that people need, they don't ask for because they can't see the forest for the trees.

[Jonathan Greene]

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Insane the amount of people upset about someone just advertising themselves/market. Oh yeah it gets annoying for sure, but hey, this post was made just to talk about Columbus? Hey doesn't sound like bad press to me!

Spectating is the best side to be on here, lol. I wish y'all the best in your head to head!

This is a terrible attitude about it. What happens is that new investors come in looking for someone who knows something, investors who know something, investors who invest themselves...but sometimes what they get is alleged investor-friendly agents who don't invest and don't work with investors much, but know other agents who do. So they use broad strokes to entice new people to talk to them, but they don't have the knowledge or expertise to do the job. The forums are not for advertising yourself or marketing, that is against the terms. They are for adding value and helping other people.

This is everything that this original post is about, but Cincinnati. Look at what the poster is asking for (invest anywhere in the US) and look at the response which is definitely considered self-promotion in the forum. It was a fair response until the last sentence about shooting him a message. This explains what is wrong. Stop asking for business and earn it.

 This is earning it. It isn't asking for business, it is reaching out to someone to earn their business. 

My question for you is why are you so upset about someone asking about connecting and trying to see if my market fits their needs?

If you are asking for business, you aren't earning it. It's online begging. Your sales record isn't terrible over the past two years, 13 sales. That's pretty good. You don't need to ask someone to connect and see if it's a fit. You need to provide an answer to their question without a connection request. I'm sure you DMd and you should not. But, you also have no online reviews from those 13 transactions - so what does that tell you? Either you are bad at follow-up with your clients and forget about them after closing or you don't think it's important. But the first place people will look is your Zillow profile.

 I normally don't request my clients leave me a review on BiggerPockets, I do it via my team. Close or no close, I call every one of my leads, closed or not, every 2 months to see how they are doing. And those 13 are this year so far, it doesn't seem like I have updated that recently enough. So to answer if I am bad at follow up or don't care about my clients, the answer is neither, thank you

I was talking about Zillow, not BiggerPockets. You have 13 closed sales and no reviews on Zillow. So, those 13 clients weren't impressed enough (or reminded) to write a review on the most public buyer site out there.

And no, they are not all this year. Zillow updates automatically now because it is tied to the MLS. You can't update them.

Look, you clearly are clueless about this, but not about real estate since you have sales. But you are like the new generation of real estate investors who only like pats on the back and can't take any criticism. You look worse every time you answer me so it would be best for your business to stop.

Two things come to mind when I read your response:

1. The Key and Peele Substitute Teacher skit where Mr. Garvey says "Oh, I see. You want to play?" If you keep responding, you will keep digging yourself a bigger hole. If you are up for that, let's go.

2. When an NBA player makes the too little sign after dunking on someone. This will keep happening. Stop yourself. Your post in the other forum was flagged and was grabby. Do better.

 Can you answer the message I sent you please? 

You're a kid. So take a lesson, from an elder.

Don't engage back, sometimes the most powerful instrument is silence. The world will go round and shape one's that push back. It always happens, maybe not today or tomorrow but it'll come. Trust me you don't go through no highs, without dealing with some lows. This dude is on a trip-- a power one thinking he's making a movement too. **** out of here with that thinking. 

Let him bark at you, just keep strolling by. Don't send him a message or engage in his ********. He thinks he's on top of something and degrading you, you don't give your time to folks that disrespect you. Give your time to the game. What you did is fine, it wasn't like the Columbus Cartel nonsense we see. Is it cringy, sure, but so is a lot of small elevator pitches. It is what it is. I ain't going to hate on it. 

Power trip in a forum? Good lord, you people take things too seriously and come to people's defense as if they have been offended in some way. I am giving all of the agents who do this a blueprint for success on BiggerPockets and a highlight to what could get them banned.

You must be someone who just likes to hop into the middle of things. You are only promoting participation trophies and rationalizing poor marketing. If they all just follow an easier path and stop spamming on posts or asking for business and focus on adding value only, they will get 5x the business.

 You're the one that hired 50 people, just to fire them. Then question if you are on a power trip?

You ain't the one to tell people how to act and move. You're the one that needs to listen and behave. I've hired more people than you fired, rather than trying to take potshots at me back. Go read up a bit, you'll learn more in passing than you will listening to your own echo.

Zen my ***, bro. You're a cupcake, and if you keep barking up this tree you'll get the wrong dog. 

I am not here to save anybody, I am simply telling the youngster here's a hand up not a foot down. You struggle with managing relationships and understanding human behavior, go read some of your own posts. The cringy introvert one is embarrassing, do you not grasp you're out of touch? You keep acting like this, you're going to see some issues coming so I suggest you keep it trim. This is the internet, so it's forever, and you're looking like a damn fool.

I am an open book. There's nothing to hide like you with your excellent profile pic, so I always stand by everything I say. There is no cringe or embarrassment in me because I have nothing to feel that way for. I have been here in the forums for ten years doing the same thing so I am not quite sure what issues you think are coming, but I am here for them. Bring it. Do you want to hop on a recorded Zoom and go over these things also? We can post it in here and then others can judge the cringe meter for themselves? I will be waiting for a yes.

You don't even read what you write. You are a typical internet anonymous troll who pops in and out and sauces the forums with their perspective and looks outward and not inward. Being an introvert and trying to help other people navigate a conference is not cringe, it's helpful for those who get overwhelmed by trying to do small talk.

I will bark up this tree every day so let's have a regular conversation on Zoom so I can see what you got and everyone else can too. I am not worried about getting the wrong dog in any way. I am thinking more puppy at this point.

 You can keep waiting for that yes, just like Dave Meyers is waiting for me to give a call back when I called out his quality over quantity nonsense.  Much like him, you're just tripping on your feelings. I got time to post on here, you think I got time to talk back  and forth about your failing businesses, desperation for attention on BP forums, and your staunch views against the columbus cartel? 

Get a grip, ain't no one getting on a call for that. We can debate it here at our convenience, not much to debate though. You're just another sleazy salesmen. 

Coaching business is failing, streamlined business is on it's last legs, posting 4-5x day new threads trying to catch the validation. I can go on, but your actions speak to the true underlying problem and that's you.  Diving your businesses down daily like the titanic. 

Final take-- your reality is everyone around you is a problem, but the reality is you're the problem.

I will tell you what I tell most of the trolls who hop into a forum late, hide behind their fake profile, and get scared to go on a recorded Zoom - get some help.

You are not in reality. I've never had a failing business. I don't want or need attention, hence, being an introvert. I've never been a salesman, you don't even make any sense. I build relationships as an agent and you can look up my stats on Zillow. I don't have a coaching business so that's another made up thing. My business at Streamlined is far from failing, just look on Zillow. The production and reviews are all there and they can not be fake.

Final take - they guy who shows up late to the party wearing a bag over his head to hide his identity and is scared to record on Zoom when everyone can watch is the one out of touch. Bye bye.

[Chris John]

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I was trying to ignore this ridiculous thread, but against my better judgement, I'll bite. 

@Jonathan Greene

You seem like a "Mom of the Road" type that completely ignores the concept of a fast lane, goes 60, and makes the world go around you because you're going "fast enough already". 

At what point did anyone ask for the coaching advice that you doled out on this thread?

Huh? I think you should have trusted your better judgment. The "Mom of the Road" reference doesn't make any sense, but thanks for weighing in.

Since you asked, countless people I know have been complaining about this for a long time.

And as usual, the guy who hops into the chat 5 pages in never has a profile photo. If you read the chat, there are very few people who disagree with me, so what was your hope in unfurling your two cents here? I am open to it, but I don't have a clue what you are talking about.

Most advice that people need, they don't ask for because they can't see the forest for the trees.

Cool.  I'll spell it out for you then.  "Moms of the road" interject themselves into society where they're not wanted or needed by being the "boss" of people that don't need one.  That's what you did with this thread.  You could've ignored everything with Columbus on it, but chose to take the lead instead (as if you were slowing down the fast lane because it wasn't to your liking).

Bully for you that "countless" people agree with you.  Let's be honest though, "countless" could also be called "ones and ones".

As for my anonymity, what difference would that make?  I'm not trying to sell anything and have lived through the last several years of people being doxxed for innocuous comments that society has suddenly deemed unacceptable.  Call it what you want, I call it common sense.

I'd love to keep arguing, but I've gotta go hire a few dozen people so that I can fire them and then blame them for it.  Cheers.

[Michael P.]

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Insane the amount of people upset about someone just advertising themselves/market. Oh yeah it gets annoying for sure, but hey, this post was made just to talk about Columbus? Hey doesn't sound like bad press to me!

Spectating is the best side to be on here, lol. I wish y'all the best in your head to head!

This is a terrible attitude about it. What happens is that new investors come in looking for someone who knows something, investors who know something, investors who invest themselves...but sometimes what they get is alleged investor-friendly agents who don't invest and don't work with investors much, but know other agents who do. So they use broad strokes to entice new people to talk to them, but they don't have the knowledge or expertise to do the job. The forums are not for advertising yourself or marketing, that is against the terms. They are for adding value and helping other people.

This is everything that this original post is about, but Cincinnati. Look at what the poster is asking for (invest anywhere in the US) and look at the response which is definitely considered self-promotion in the forum. It was a fair response until the last sentence about shooting him a message. This explains what is wrong. Stop asking for business and earn it.

 This is earning it. It isn't asking for business, it is reaching out to someone to earn their business. 

My question for you is why are you so upset about someone asking about connecting and trying to see if my market fits their needs?

If you are asking for business, you aren't earning it. It's online begging. Your sales record isn't terrible over the past two years, 13 sales. That's pretty good. You don't need to ask someone to connect and see if it's a fit. You need to provide an answer to their question without a connection request. I'm sure you DMd and you should not. But, you also have no online reviews from those 13 transactions - so what does that tell you? Either you are bad at follow-up with your clients and forget about them after closing or you don't think it's important. But the first place people will look is your Zillow profile.

 I normally don't request my clients leave me a review on BiggerPockets, I do it via my team. Close or no close, I call every one of my leads, closed or not, every 2 months to see how they are doing. And those 13 are this year so far, it doesn't seem like I have updated that recently enough. So to answer if I am bad at follow up or don't care about my clients, the answer is neither, thank you

I was talking about Zillow, not BiggerPockets. You have 13 closed sales and no reviews on Zillow. So, those 13 clients weren't impressed enough (or reminded) to write a review on the most public buyer site out there.

And no, they are not all this year. Zillow updates automatically now because it is tied to the MLS. You can't update them.

Look, you clearly are clueless about this, but not about real estate since you have sales. But you are like the new generation of real estate investors who only like pats on the back and can't take any criticism. You look worse every time you answer me so it would be best for your business to stop.

Two things come to mind when I read your response:

1. The Key and Peele Substitute Teacher skit where Mr. Garvey says "Oh, I see. You want to play?" If you keep responding, you will keep digging yourself a bigger hole. If you are up for that, let's go.

2. When an NBA player makes the too little sign after dunking on someone. This will keep happening. Stop yourself. Your post in the other forum was flagged and was grabby. Do better.

 Can you answer the message I sent you please? 

You're a kid. So take a lesson, from an elder.

Don't engage back, sometimes the most powerful instrument is silence. The world will go round and shape one's that push back. It always happens, maybe not today or tomorrow but it'll come. Trust me you don't go through no highs, without dealing with some lows. This dude is on a trip-- a power one thinking he's making a movement too. **** out of here with that thinking. 

Let him bark at you, just keep strolling by. Don't send him a message or engage in his ********. He thinks he's on top of something and degrading you, you don't give your time to folks that disrespect you. Give your time to the game. What you did is fine, it wasn't like the Columbus Cartel nonsense we see. Is it cringy, sure, but so is a lot of small elevator pitches. It is what it is. I ain't going to hate on it. 

Power trip in a forum? Good lord, you people take things too seriously and come to people's defense as if they have been offended in some way. I am giving all of the agents who do this a blueprint for success on BiggerPockets and a highlight to what could get them banned.

You must be someone who just likes to hop into the middle of things. You are only promoting participation trophies and rationalizing poor marketing. If they all just follow an easier path and stop spamming on posts or asking for business and focus on adding value only, they will get 5x the business.

 You're the one that hired 50 people, just to fire them. Then question if you are on a power trip?

You ain't the one to tell people how to act and move. You're the one that needs to listen and behave. I've hired more people than you fired, rather than trying to take potshots at me back. Go read up a bit, you'll learn more in passing than you will listening to your own echo.

Zen my ***, bro. You're a cupcake, and if you keep barking up this tree you'll get the wrong dog. 

I am not here to save anybody, I am simply telling the youngster here's a hand up not a foot down. You struggle with managing relationships and understanding human behavior, go read some of your own posts. The cringy introvert one is embarrassing, do you not grasp you're out of touch? You keep acting like this, you're going to see some issues coming so I suggest you keep it trim. This is the internet, so it's forever, and you're looking like a damn fool.

I am an open book. There's nothing to hide like you with your excellent profile pic, so I always stand by everything I say. There is no cringe or embarrassment in me because I have nothing to feel that way for. I have been here in the forums for ten years doing the same thing so I am not quite sure what issues you think are coming, but I am here for them. Bring it. Do you want to hop on a recorded Zoom and go over these things also? We can post it in here and then others can judge the cringe meter for themselves? I will be waiting for a yes.

You don't even read what you write. You are a typical internet anonymous troll who pops in and out and sauces the forums with their perspective and looks outward and not inward. Being an introvert and trying to help other people navigate a conference is not cringe, it's helpful for those who get overwhelmed by trying to do small talk.

I will bark up this tree every day so let's have a regular conversation on Zoom so I can see what you got and everyone else can too. I am not worried about getting the wrong dog in any way. I am thinking more puppy at this point.

 You can keep waiting for that yes, just like Dave Meyers is waiting for me to give a call back when I called out his quality over quantity nonsense.  Much like him, you're just tripping on your feelings. I got time to post on here, you think I got time to talk back  and forth about your failing businesses, desperation for attention on BP forums, and your staunch views against the columbus cartel? 

Get a grip, ain't no one getting on a call for that. We can debate it here at our convenience, not much to debate though. You're just another sleazy salesmen. 

Coaching business is failing, streamlined business is on it's last legs, posting 4-5x day new threads trying to catch the validation. I can go on, but your actions speak to the true underlying problem and that's you.  Diving your businesses down daily like the titanic. 

Final take-- your reality is everyone around you is a problem, but the reality is you're the problem.

 Why is quantity better than quality? (Honest question)

I’ve found the opposite in my investing. 

[Becca F.]

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Here is the recording of me and @Remington Lyman discussing the issue like two fully grown adults.

https://fathom.video/share/MNscSw4vQsx65fmzexEsuTDk7CJB5QLU?...

 After watching that recording, I'd add that I have a lot more  respect for Remington than I did before.  I previously grouped him into the Columbus agents who seem to comment on every new investor post, especially the California investors. I get DMs from these new CA investors who don't post on the forums - I feel that they could get much better advice from many of the more experienced investors on here.  Maybe they're afraid of sales pitched which is why they don't want to post publicly or just don't want their names on a public forum?? I try to help them the best that I could. 

I agree with the comments about how the gurus keep pushing the 1% cash flow narrative which is why new investors gravitate towards this. I don't run a real estate brokerage and I'm not an agent so I don't know enough to comment about that industry and who should be fired, etc. 

Wow this thread has gotten heated. 

[James Wise]

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I was trying to ignore this ridiculous thread, but against my better judgement, I'll bite. 

@Jonathan Greene

You seem like a "Mom of the Road" type that completely ignores the concept of a fast lane, goes 60, and makes the world go around you because you're going "fast enough already". 

At what point did anyone ask for the coaching advice that you doled out on this thread?

Huh? I think you should have trusted your better judgment. The "Mom of the Road" reference doesn't make any sense, but thanks for weighing in.

Since you asked, countless people I know have been complaining about this for a long time.

And as usual, the guy who hops into the chat 5 pages in never has a profile photo. If you read the chat, there are very few people who disagree with me, so what was your hope in unfurling your two cents here? I am open to it, but I don't have a clue what you are talking about.

Most advice that people need, they don't ask for because they can't see the forest for the trees.

Cool.  I'll spell it out for you then.  "Moms of the road" interject themselves into society where they're not wanted or needed by being the "boss" of people that don't need one.  That's what you did with this thread.  You could've ignored everything with Columbus on it, but chose to take the lead instead (as if you were slowing down the fast lane because it wasn't to your liking).

Bully for you that "countless" people agree with you.  Let's be honest though, "countless" could also be called "ones and ones".

As for my anonymity, what difference would that make?  I'm not trying to sell anything and have lived through the last several years of people being doxxed for innocuous comments that society has suddenly deemed unacceptable.  Call it what you want, I call it common sense.

I'd love to keep arguing, but I've gotta go hire a few dozen people so that I can fire them and then blame them for it.  Cheers.

[Michael P.]

This thread is heated and calls for a relaxing bath 🛀🏻    G Jonathan has posted his bath pic now Vg Jason please post your bath pic next

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This thread is heated and calls for a relaxing bath 🛀🏻    G Jonathan has posted his bath pic now Vg Jason please post your bath pic next

 Hella nice bathroom bro

[Jonathan Greene]

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I was trying to ignore this ridiculous thread, but against my better judgement, I'll bite. 

@Jonathan Greene

You seem like a "Mom of the Road" type that completely ignores the concept of a fast lane, goes 60, and makes the world go around you because you're going "fast enough already". 

At what point did anyone ask for the coaching advice that you doled out on this thread?

Huh? I think you should have trusted your better judgment. The "Mom of the Road" reference doesn't make any sense, but thanks for weighing in.

Since you asked, countless people I know have been complaining about this for a long time.

And as usual, the guy who hops into the chat 5 pages in never has a profile photo. If you read the chat, there are very few people who disagree with me, so what was your hope in unfurling your two cents here? I am open to it, but I don't have a clue what you are talking about.

Most advice that people need, they don't ask for because they can't see the forest for the trees.

Cool.  I'll spell it out for you then.  "Moms of the road" interject themselves into society where they're not wanted or needed by being the "boss" of people that don't need one.  That's what you did with this thread.  You could've ignored everything with Columbus on it, but chose to take the lead instead (as if you were slowing down the fast lane because it wasn't to your liking).

Bully for you that "countless" people agree with you.  Let's be honest though, "countless" could also be called "ones and ones".

As for my anonymity, what difference would that make?  I'm not trying to sell anything and have lived through the last several years of people being doxxed for innocuous comments that society has suddenly deemed unacceptable.  Call it what you want, I call it common sense.

I'd love to keep arguing, but I've gotta go hire a few dozen people so that I can fire them and then blame them for it.  Cheers.

All you needed to say was "I have lived through the last several years of people being doxxed for innocuous comments that society has suddenly deemed unacceptable." Your story is told. This is what you do.

Based on your "moms of the road" analogy, if you really look at it, you are the one doing this. I made the post based on many other people's gripes, the CEO of BP is in the chain explaining why people are griping, then you choose to interject yourself into it. So, I think it's pretty clear that you are the mom of the road here, not me. Safe driving.

[Jonathan Greene]

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This thread is heated and calls for a relaxing bath 🛀🏻    G Jonathan has posted his bath pic now Vg Jason please post your bath pic next

It's weird that you are posting this, but for context that was from one of my flips and this was a still from the video of the listing of the property. There is a full before and after.

[Jonathan Greene]

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This thread is heated and calls for a relaxing bath 🛀🏻    G Jonathan has posted his bath pic now Vg Jason please post your bath pic next

 Hella nice bathroom bro

The brick was covered by sheetrock on the first and second floors so we pulled it and got this surprise and kept it. This bathroom is even better than in the photos. It was a 2/1.1 house and we got this bath to be huge with a large walk-in shower and that tub I am in, and a double vanity.

[Michael P.]

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This thread is heated and calls for a relaxing bath 🛀🏻    G Jonathan has posted his bath pic now Vg Jason please post your bath pic next

 Hella nice bathroom bro

 Yeah i want to buy this flip now and try staining that brick

[Jonathan Greene]

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This thread is heated and calls for a relaxing bath 🛀🏻    G Jonathan has posted his bath pic now Vg Jason please post your bath pic next

 Hella nice bathroom bro

 Yeah i want to buy this flip now and try staining that brick

Are you ok? What you are posting doesn't make any sense. The photo below and the photo you posted of me (weirdly) are not from the same property. If you looked at the whole flip on the tub, that side was left like that on purpose for the rustic feel. The other side, in the guest bedroom was painted dark gray, and downstairs was left exposed as well for an industrial feel. You seem like you are trolling for no reason.

You can just watch the YouTube video and make more weird comments there that I will delete, but I don't know what your objective here.

[Jonathan Greene]

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This thread is heated and calls for a relaxing bath 🛀🏻    G Jonathan has posted his bath pic now Vg Jason please post your bath pic next

 Hella nice bathroom bro

The brick was covered by sheetrock on the first and second floors so we pulled it and got this surprise and kept it. This bathroom is even better than in the photos. It was a 2/1.1 house and we got this bath to be huge with a large walk-in shower and that tub I am in, and a double vanity.

For reference, now that the thread is even more off-track. From the POV, there is a walk-in shower.

[James Wise]

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This thread is heated and calls for a relaxing bath 🛀🏻    G Jonathan has posted his bath pic now Vg Jason please post your bath pic next

 Hella nice bathroom bro

The brick was covered by sheetrock on the first and second floors so we pulled it and got this surprise and kept it. This bathroom is even better than in the photos. It was a 2/1.1 house and we got this bath to be huge with a large walk-in shower and that tub I am in, and a double vanity.

For reference, now that the thread is even more off-track. From the POV, there is a walk-in shower.

 You guys should see the bricks they got in Columbus. Greatest bricks in the world.

[Dan Thomas]

Is this the right section to ask about wholesaling arbitrage properties using none of my own money??

Maybe in Columbus Columbus Columbus?

[Remington Lyman]

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That would be funny if Remington completely revamped his business model and transformed his life because of this thread. 

 I need to. My life is horrible right now. Time to take a trip to Sullivant Ave