Buying land and building a second dwelling... what is the best way?

Buying land and building a second dwelling... what is the best way?

Investor · GIlbert, AZ · Member since 2018 · 24 posts · 3 votes

So I am looking for creative ideas others have done for the following situation: 

My father owns his home on a 1.5 acre lot. About .6 acre of it is just pasture behind it, that was used for hobby cattle. I am wanting to build a home on that land, but the city will not let us subdivide the land (parcel not big enough). 

I am looking for any ideas from the community to the following 2 questions:

1) Is there a way to petition the city to allow the subdivide of the parcel? (Gilbert AZ) (from my research, this seems unlikely). 

2) What would be the best/most creative way to finance it, if unable to subdivide does not work? 
(My idea so far: My father cash out refinances the property (he has plenty of equity) - he puts my name on the refinance, and use the cash to build the second house, and I would pay the difference compared to his current mortgage). Is there a better way? 

Would love any creative ideas to the above questions, thank you!

For context: 

- we have a great relationship, and they are a few years away from retirement

- I would not be able to afford to buy him out all the way of the home with a traditional loan, and they do not want to move anytime soon.

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Developer · New Orleans, LA · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 898 votes
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@Drex Tanner  You can read up on the local zoning regulations, this will tell you what you what your able to do.  Determine what you can not meet.  While generally not required, the more information on what your going to do, like building plans, will help the variance board to understand the need (and even allow them to limit the variance approval to a specific set of building plans).  Also, if you can find any other properties that match or are close to what you want to do that would be helpful as it shows precedence.

I find my local staff do not like to approve blanket requests, but will more seriously consider things if you shown the exactly what you are planning on doing.  I guess it keeps the scope of the approval limited and avoids others from trying to use your approval as justification for future approvals.

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  • Real Estate Agent · Mohnton, PA · Member since 2018 · 47 posts · 58 votes
    3y

    Step 1- verify that your local zoning regulations will allow an ADU

  • Investor · GIlbert, AZ · Member since 2018 · 24 posts · 3 votes
    3y

    They do, I should have added that to the post. 3 of their neighbors have done something similar with minimal problems. 

  • Investor · GIlbert, AZ · Member since 2018 · 24 posts · 3 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Jesse L. Weaver:

    Step 1- verify that your local zoning regulations will allow an ADU

    They do, I should have added that to the post. 3 of their neighbors have done something similar with minimal problems. 
  • Developer · New Orleans, LA · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 898 votes
    3y

    @Drex Tanner You local city should have a variance process that you can apply for.  You would need to apply for any all variance to the code that you need to gain approval to sub-divide the land.  You may need to hire an architect or other planning type to research what local zoning regulations you will need a variance approval for.  Once you have determined what variances you need, apply for them with what ever supporting data you can gather.  The local city staff will only tell you what the current zoning regulations are, as they typically are not allowed to tell you otherwise. In my area, I have received variances for lot size being too small, insufficient off-street parking and insufficient structure elevation (all different projects), so they can been done.

    If you are unable to subdivide, I would not proceed with the project.  There are would be issues with multiple dwellings on the the same lot and you may not even be able to get permits to build two separate dwellings, especially if the lot is not zoned for multifamily.  You would be building something that may not be marketable or sellable in the future.

  • Investor · GIlbert, AZ · Member since 2018 · 24 posts · 3 votes
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    Quote from @Mike Wood:

    @Drex Tanner You local city should have a variance process that you can apply for.  You would need to apply for any all variance to the code that you need to gain approval to sub-divide the land.  You may need to hire an architect or other planning type to research what local zoning regulations you will need a variance approval for.  Once you have determined what variances you need, apply for them with what ever supporting data you can gather.  The local city staff will only tell you what the current zoning regulations are, as they typically are not allowed to tell you otherwise. In my area, I have received variances for lot size being too small, insufficient off-street parking and insufficient structure elevation (all different projects), so they can been done.

    If you are unable to subdivide, I would not proceed with the project.  There are would be issues with multiple dwellings on the the same lot and you may not even be able to get permits to build two separate dwellings, especially if the lot is not zoned for multifamily.  You would be building something that may not be marketable or sellable in the future.


     That is excellent advice, thank you! Any tips or things that work well in the variance application process? 

  • Developer · New Orleans, LA · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 898 votes
    3y

    @Drex Tanner  You can read up on the local zoning regulations, this will tell you what you what your able to do.  Determine what you can not meet.  While generally not required, the more information on what your going to do, like building plans, will help the variance board to understand the need (and even allow them to limit the variance approval to a specific set of building plans).  Also, if you can find any other properties that match or are close to what you want to do that would be helpful as it shows precedence.

    I find my local staff do not like to approve blanket requests, but will more seriously consider things if you shown the exactly what you are planning on doing.  I guess it keeps the scope of the approval limited and avoids others from trying to use your approval as justification for future approvals.

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