3 More Lessons from Our Latest Multifamily Deal

3 More Lessons from Our Latest Multifamily Deal

John CasmonPro Member
Cincinnati, OH · Member since 2013 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes

Last week we closed on an 81-unit multifamily community and I shared 3 key lessons learned over on the BP member blogs. You can check out those lessons there. Now, that we've been owning this for a week, I thought it would be good to share more insights and lessons learned and hear from you on your experiences. 

1. Keys and Locks
Every time we buy a property, inevitably there will be keys that don't work, are labeled incorrectly and locks that need to be changed. Be ready to just replace locks for any vacant units and have extras on hand for unit turns. Ideally, you use a master key or keypad system to simplify things going forward. 

2. Fix the Biggest Problem First 
In our case, there were about 4 residents that caused the majority of the issues at this property and residents were happy to call it out. Because we spoke with the local police, previous owners, and the previous PM, we had a strong sense of the people who would not be apart of the community going forward. They were served notice, sending a message to the community that we wanted to create a better environment for them and blatant disregard for others would no longer be tolerated.

3. Communicate to Residents
Whenever a new manager/owner takes over current residents grow concerned. Particularly, they wonder if they will be kicked out, will rents go up, do the community be a place they want to live in going forward? If they don't know the answer, they may just book it and leave.

Clearly communicating your plans and intentions is a start, but they want to see it. They won't believe empty words, so taking early steps to create a better community and justify higher rents is critical. Most people would prefer to stay put if their issues can be addressed, even at a higher price point. By fixing their problems and communicating with them, you can reduce turnover even when raising rents.

What are some lessons, you've learned from your own deals?

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Investor · Mesa, AZ · Member since 2019 · 53 posts · 63 votes
5y

Hey John, 

Those are some great takeaways. What I learned on the last deal we did was to expect some push back from the tenants. This might sound obvious, and I expected that there would be push back, just not exactly what the tenants did. The tenants said that they paid the previous management company in advance, so they didn't need to pay for the next month. We did some digging and found out that they hadn't paid. We promptly asked them to pay or we would be start the eviction process. 

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  • Michael K GallagherBusiness Member
    Real Estate Agent · Columbus OH · Member since 2018 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    5y

    thank you for sharing, these are great insights, logical, simple, but so many I'm sure do not communicate in a productive caring manner.  Keep us updated on the progress getting it turned around...would love to see the numbers and details on the deal as well if you're comfortable sharing.

  • Indianapolis, IN · Member since 2021 · 193 posts · 150 votes
    5y

    @John Casmon thanks for sharing that information, always great to learn from past experiences and others in the industry. What markets are you in? 

  • Bjorn AhlbladPro Member
    Investor · Shelton, WA · Member since 2017 · 6k+ posts · 6k+ votes
    5y

    Congratulations! You are the voice of experience!

  • John CasmonPro Member
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    Cincinnati, OH · Member since 2013 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    5y
    Originally posted by @William Costello:

    @John Casmon thanks for sharing that information, always great to learn from past experiences and others in the industry. What markets are you in? 

    Thanks William. I live in Cincinnati and invest in midwest markets like Cincy, Louisville, and Indy. 

  • Investor · Mesa, AZ · Member since 2019 · 53 posts · 63 votes
    5y

    Hey John, 

    Those are some great takeaways. What I learned on the last deal we did was to expect some push back from the tenants. This might sound obvious, and I expected that there would be push back, just not exactly what the tenants did. The tenants said that they paid the previous management company in advance, so they didn't need to pay for the next month. We did some digging and found out that they hadn't paid. We promptly asked them to pay or we would be start the eviction process. 

  • John CasmonPro Member
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    Cincinnati, OH · Member since 2013 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    5y
    Originally posted by @Michael K Gallagher:

    thank you for sharing, these are great insights, logical, simple, but so many I'm sure do not communicate in a productive caring manner.  Keep us updated on the progress getting it turned around...would love to see the numbers and details on the deal as well if you're comfortable sharing.

    Thanks Michael. I'll send a PM on deal info. 

  • John CasmonPro Member
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    Cincinnati, OH · Member since 2013 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    5y
    Originally posted by @Caleb Johnson:

    Hey John, 

    Those are some great takeaways. What I learned on the last deal we did was to expect some push back from the tenants. This might sound obvious, and I expected that there would be push back, just not exactly what the tenants did. The tenants said that they paid the previous management company in advance, so they didn't need to pay for the next month. We did some digging and found out that they hadn't paid. We promptly asked them to pay or we would be start the eviction process. 

    That's a wild one for them to try. Pushback from tenants is normal, but using the "we paid the last guy" scheme seems ridiculous.

  • Real Estate Agent · Burlington, KY · Member since 2018 · 206 posts · 232 votes
    5y

    @John Casmon These are great points! I agree that communication is key, especially when you're also sending a message on what will not be tolerated. The two need to go hand in hand. Thanks for sharing. I always like to hear the voice of experience because I've seen how valuable the experience is firsthand.

  • John CasmonPro Member
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    Cincinnati, OH · Member since 2013 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    5y

    @Zachary Elliott agree. It always comes down to communication. People need to know what to expect and you need to follow through to maintain expectations.

  • Rental Property Investor · Cincinnati, OH · Member since 2020 · 380 posts · 588 votes
    5y

    @John Casmon That is great to hear, what neighborhoods in Cincinnati are you in?

  • Rental Property Investor · Cincinnati, OH · Member since 2020 · 62 posts · 64 votes
    5y

    @John Casmon Congratulations on your success! I’d say you have a pretty concise summary of setting yourself up for successful stabilization of a new property. Although I’m not a veteran RE Investor, in my experience over the last couple years communicating with my tenants has been key. I’d include handling maintenance requests in a timely manner shows your serious about keeping your property in good shape and increases your chances of retaining tenants.

  • John CasmonPro Member
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    Cincinnati, OH · Member since 2013 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    5y
    Originally posted by @Andy Crawford:

    @John Casmon Congratulations on your success! I’d say you have a pretty concise summary of setting yourself up for successful stabilization of a new property. Although I’m not a veteran RE Investor, in my experience over the last couple years communicating with my tenants has been key. I’d include handling maintenance requests in a timely manner shows your serious about keeping your property in good shape and increases your chances of retaining tenants.

    Yes, our PM team handles the lion share of these discussions but when you're onsite at a property, you will get the pulse of the community. 

  • Rental Property Investor · Lebanon, OH · Member since 2016 · 220 posts · 228 votes
    5y

    Some great lessons @John Casmon! Thanks for sharing!

    I learned a hard lesson on our 47-unit a couple of weeks ago. My partner and I got too involved in the painting/changing locks for all 47 units. I severely underestimated the scale of painting and changing locks for 47 doors. We started around 7:30am and finished around 11:30pm. It was a miserable day. We had some very upset residents (though they were also very appreciative of our hard work and their new door). We could have done many things differently, like spreading this project out over two days instead of one, but my takeaway is to allow our PM and the professional contractors handle these projects while we simply oversee them. I will focus on managing the manager and managing the cap ex projects instead of involving mysleft in the actual projects from now on!

  • Real Estate Agent · Cincinnati, OH · Member since 2015 · 474 posts · 580 votes
    5y

    @John Casmon Congrats on the new acquisition John, it has been inspiring to see your growth! Hope to see you again soon. Best of luck on this deal!

  • Investor · Las Vegas, NV · Member since 2018 · 29 posts · 10 votes
    5y

    Great work @John Casmon! Love the lessons and the great close. Just curious what your standards and metrics are to begin underwriting a deal? Currently stepping into commercial MF myself.

  • John CasmonPro Member
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    Cincinnati, OH · Member since 2013 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    5y

    @Joseph Cornwell

    Thanks Joe! Hope to catch up with you in person soon.

  • John CasmonPro Member
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    Cincinnati, OH · Member since 2013 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    5y

    @Joshua Espejo

    We’re typically looking for a 75-200 unit property in a B class area. We have other specifics, but I won’t bore you with that. The most important thing for us is understanding the story and deciding if we can create the value our partners are seeking in an investment.

  • John CasmonPro Member
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    Cincinnati, OH · Member since 2013 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    5y

    @Lee Yoder

    Great lesson here! When managing a larger property you have to rely on your team.

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