Grabbed 2020 By the Horns, Took Down a 64 Unit

Grabbed 2020 By the Horns, Took Down a 64 Unit

Pat JacksonPro Member
Rental Property Investor · Reno, NV · Member since 2017 · 284 posts · 137 votes

I'm a long distance investor, living in Reno, NV and (before this apartment) invest in northwest Missouri.  I've wanted to buy in southwest Missouri, but nothing ever came to fruition.  @Brit Hale and I built a great relationship in 2+ years of him sharing deals, trying to make something work, us bouncing ideas, and generating a solid working relationship.  

In May 2020 I drove from Reno to Missouri  (I drove to avoid COVID) to meet with my partner @Matt Crawford and underwrite a large apartment in Northwest Missouri.  While there, @Brit Hale shared a pocket listing for a 64 unit building.  We put in a strong offer, the sellers went with someone else, and that was that.  

Fast forward a month.  The bank tells the buyer with the contract something to the effect of "your divorce is too long and nasty, we won't loan to you till it's over."  @Brit Hale gets the call from the listing agent "if you offer 2.2 million and have a pre-approval letter the sellers will accept".

I'll take a moment to elaborate on @Matt Crawford and myself.  We aren't high rollers.  We work w-2 jobs, have never been interviewed on a podcast, and do real estate on the side.  We've done a 6 unit and 8 unit together, and a few smaller projects alone or with others.  We just listen to podcasts and webinars and "fail forward".  In fact, we have never put an apartment under contract and known how the financing would work or exactly where the down payment would come from.  

We contact our local bank for a letter, and this is what they provide:

"This letter is to introduce our customers, Matt Crawford and Pat Jackson.  They have been customers since 2017.  All deposits and loan accounts have been handled in a satisfactory manner and are in good standing.  They are reputable and conduct themselves in a professional manner."

We send the 2.2 million dollar offer and the "pre-approval letter" in.  I'm pretty sure I said YOLO.  And under contract we went. 

Henceforth started due diligence.  Inspection.  Sewer scoping.  Roof and HVAC did their thing.  Termites, there are some termites.  There are some issues, but they were all surmountable.  

It's worth noting the sellers agent had a terrible disposition.  He always acted like the sky was falling.  Glass was always half empty.  This disposition, combined with the fact I really hit it off with the seller when we did an initial walk through in June, really fostered a fun and productive working relationship.  At one point I had a fairly contentious conversation with the seller, discussing the inspection findings.  His agent had frankly made a fair amount of stuff up, all of it was negative.  I walked the seller back from the edge.  He made the point that his agent needed to get an ocular-anal surgery.  Not knowing what that was, I asked.  He replied "my agent needs to get the nerve that connects his eyes to his anus disconnected so he stops having such a poopy outlook"  (he didn't say poopy, you get it).  We may not have closed if it hadn't been for this relationship with the seller.  

A little about this apartment.  Built in 1975, it's 6 buildings on 3.4 acres.  A somewhat unique mix of bedroom count:

11 1-bedroom units

29 2-bedroom units

21 3-bedroom units

4 4-bedroom units (4 bedroom apartments, weird right?)

Based on due diligence these are at least $100 a door under market as is.  Rents can likely be raised $200 a door after cosmetic rehabs.  

We ended up using a local bank who only requires 15% down.  We agreed to do a bridge type loan, 18 months of interest only payments at 4.5%.  At the end of 18 months if the bank likes us and how we've improved the apartment, the loan will transition over to a long term principal and interest loan.  We may also refinance.  

I've skipped a lot of the ups and downs, twists and turns. This was a lot more complicated than a small apartment. At times it seemed like all was lost. But, we did it. We closed last Friday (November 20). We ended up doing a joint venture with a third investor, all brought funds to the table, and each own 1/3 of the property. We own this property in a standalone LLC, with our 1/3 interest being held in a cell of our own series LLC.

On a positive note, we conservatively underwrote this at a 9 cap, optimistically at an 8 cap.  Our appraisal came back using a 7.5 cap.

Outside of one of the buildings



Unit that owner rehabbed while we were under contract.  I would have scrapped the popcorn ceilings, and gone stainless appliances....but since he didn't have to do any of this I'm OK with it!

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Real Estate Agent · Joplin, MO · Member since 2018 · 112 posts · 96 votes
5y

@Pat Jackson @Matt Crawford It is worth noting that you did what most don't. Most investors are screaming for a value add deal and when presented with such (owner retiring), as in this case, they find a reason not to do it: it's far away, the rents are too low (once again, this is value ADD!), there is maintenance to do, etc. Congrats to you for stepping up and knocking it out of the park. 

Quick math: 64 units x $100/door under market rents = $6,400/month add'l income x 12 months = $76,800 annual add'l income at an 8 CAP = $960,000 in value add there alone. With renovations as planned and $200 increase per door over time, you do the math : )

Looking forward to seeing what you do with the place and the way this positively impacts you and your families in the short and long terms with cash flow and wealth generation. 

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  • Real Estate Investor · Reno, NV · Member since 2017 · 7 posts · 2 votes
    5y

    Congrats on finding the courage/brains to get it done, and having the EQ to understand the seller/seller's agent relationship.  

  • Flipper/Rehabber · Reno, NV · Member since 2019 · 38 posts · 37 votes
    5y

    @Pat Jackson that’s awesome man! Congrats!

  • Bryan MitchellPro Member
    Rental Property Investor · Columbus, GA · Member since 2016 · 623 posts · 337 votes
    5y

    @Pat Jackson well done. How are you managing the property and what’s your renovation plan? Is one of your partners local? Thanks!

  • Tyler CaseyBusiness Member
    Real Estate Broker · Kansas Missouri, Arkansas & Florida · Member since 2020 · 25 posts · 21 votes
    5y

    Congrats Pat, Matt and Jake! We are all happy for you that you’ve made this happen.

  • Pat JacksonPro Member
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    Rental Property Investor · Reno, NV · Member since 2017 · 284 posts · 137 votes
    5y
    Originally posted by @Bryan Mitchell:

    @Pat Jackson well done. How are you managing the property and what’s your renovation plan? Is one of your partners local? Thanks!

    Great question.  We are using Pro X ran by @Tyler Casey!  Him and his team manage over 700 doors and are very systems oriented.  Very excited.

  • Rental Property Investor · Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2019 · 58 posts · 49 votes
    5y

    Congratulations to all y’all for making this happen!!💪🏾💪🏾

  • Bryan MitchellPro Member
    Rental Property Investor · Columbus, GA · Member since 2016 · 623 posts · 337 votes
    5y

    @Pat Jackson, yes it looks like you have a great property management company. Do you have a renovation plan for those units? You mentioned doing some renovation and then raising the rent by $100 per door and I assumed it was in that order. So my question was how many units need to be rehabbed and how will you approach this? Did you specifically set aside renovation costs in a reserve account? Another investor in my network had a 15 unit complex in which he renovated one unit at a time over a few years. He was able to force appreciation so that now the property is worth significantly more than when he bought it.

  • Pat JacksonPro Member
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    Rental Property Investor · Reno, NV · Member since 2017 · 284 posts · 137 votes
    5y
    Originally posted by @Bryan Mitchell:

    @Pat Jackson, yes it looks like you have a great property management company. Do you have a renovation plan for those units? You mentioned doing some renovation and then raising the rent by $100 per door and I assumed it was in that order. So my question was how many units need to be rehabbed and how will you approach this? Did you specifically set aside renovation costs in a reserve account? Another investor in my network had a 15 unit complex in which he renovated one unit at a time over a few years. He was able to force appreciation so that now the property is worth significantly more than when he bought it.

    Units are $100 a door below market as is.  

  • Tyler CaseyBusiness Member
    Real Estate Broker · Kansas Missouri, Arkansas & Florida · Member since 2020 · 25 posts · 21 votes
    5y
    We are very thankful for the opportunity to help you guys with this project. It’s a big and exciting one. I’m sure we will all be able to look back a year or two from now with a lot of pride in the result.

    Originally posted by @Pat Jackson:
    Originally posted by @Bryan Mitchell:

    @Pat Jackson well done. How are you managing the property and what’s your renovation plan? Is one of your partners local? Thanks!

    Great question.  We are using Pro X ran by @Tyler Casey!  Him and his team manage over 700 doors and are very systems oriented.  Very excited.

  • Rental Property Investor · MA · Member since 2014 · 420 posts · 213 votes
    5y

    @Pat Jackson what a great share!  Thanks for posting!

  • Lender · Chicago, IL · Member since 2016 · 653 posts · 313 votes
    5y

    Awesome story man! Big congrats! 

  • Real Estate Agent · Joplin, MO · Member since 2018 · 112 posts · 96 votes
    5y

    @Pat Jackson @Matt Crawford It is worth noting that you did what most don't. Most investors are screaming for a value add deal and when presented with such (owner retiring), as in this case, they find a reason not to do it: it's far away, the rents are too low (once again, this is value ADD!), there is maintenance to do, etc. Congrats to you for stepping up and knocking it out of the park. 

    Quick math: 64 units x $100/door under market rents = $6,400/month add'l income x 12 months = $76,800 annual add'l income at an 8 CAP = $960,000 in value add there alone. With renovations as planned and $200 increase per door over time, you do the math : )

    Looking forward to seeing what you do with the place and the way this positively impacts you and your families in the short and long terms with cash flow and wealth generation. 

  • Rental Property Investor · Grand Rapids, MI · Member since 2014 · 13 posts · 4 votes
    5y

    @Pat Jackson Thanks for sharing! Sounds like your patience and persistence paid off!

  • Kahren AydinyanPro Member
    Rental Property Investor · Tulsa, OK · Member since 2018 · 23 posts · 4 votes
    5y

    Great story! Keep us updated with the process going forward.

  • Investor · Indiana and Florida · Member since 2020 · 5 posts · 0 votes
    5y

    Congratulations! How did you find the deal?

  • Rental Property Investor · Cincinnati, OH · Member since 2020 · 62 posts · 64 votes
    5y

    @Pat Jackson Congrats!! Great to see the process and your successful outcome from this deal. Thanks for sharing!

  • Member since 2020 · 18 posts · 16 votes
    5y

    Contrats to Pat and Matt.  Job well done.  Keep us informed on the progress.  

  • Investor · Boston, MA · Member since 2019 · 61 posts · 36 votes
    5y

    This is fantastic to hear -- and you're right about taking 2020 the horns. I wish you and your crew all the success. 

  • Realtor · Atlanta, GA · Member since 2018 · 103 posts · 28 votes
    5y

    @Pat Jackson congrats. Excited to learn more. Please keep us posted on the progress.

  • St. Louis, MO · Member since 2018 · 49 posts · 19 votes
    5y

    @Pat Jackson congratulations! What makes you like the western half of Missouri for investing in multi family? I’m a Missourian myself and considering investing in small multi family

  • Pat JacksonPro Member
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    Rental Property Investor · Reno, NV · Member since 2017 · 284 posts · 137 votes
    5y

    @Aaron J Latal I grew up in Odessa and just know it better. I’d buy in St. Louis if the deal made sense. So far I haven’t looked there.

    Buy! Hurry!!!

  • Rental Property Investor · Rutherford, NJ · Member since 2017 · 8 posts · 2 votes
    5y

    @Pat Jackson

    This is how the world runs. People speak to people and communicate on their goals. Seller wanted to sell and you wanted to buy.

    Phone calls and emails will never replace human interaction. Love all of the details and looking forward to hearing about your adventure.

  • New to Real Estate · Temple Hills, MD · Member since 2019 · 12 posts · 0 votes
    5y

    @Pat Jackson wow!

    Congratulations!

  • Hudson, CO · Member since 2014 · 6 posts · 16 votes
    5y

    @Pat Jackson wow very exciting. please continue to share about this as you move forward.

  • Member since 2020 · 11 posts · 8 votes
    5y

    Great write up and story! :)

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