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Ki Lee
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Cypress, CA
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LVP or peel & stick floor for class C apartments??

Ki Lee
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Cypress, CA
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Bigger Pockets! 

I would love to hear some of your opinions and experiences regarding flooring. 
Do me a favor.  Sometimes it's easy to jump to a conclusion about what's "better" based on one's personal experiences and situations.  Please see if you can help me realize the best move based on my specific situation.

Asset - Class C apartment building built in the 1960's.

Tenant class -Mostly blue collar hourly workers, usually families.  rents $700-$750 in columbus

Unit type - 2/1 townhouse style apartment, 2 stories with BR and BA upstairs.

Investment objective - 5 year hold.  Renovate units to increase rents and dispose at a profit to trade up

Current rents are over 25% below market.  Units are very outdated and run down. We want to do small upgrade in finish to raise the rents.

My partner and I are looking for the best bang for the buck.  We are looking to be agile and nimble in renovating the units. Flooring seems like a big cost.  We see that a lot of LVP's are $3-$4/sqft plus labor.  The latest vendor quoted about $6/sqft installed, and another said that he thinks that he can do for $5/sqft installed.

An investor that we know told us that she uses peel & stick floors.  They run about $.97/sqft for material. Obviously we need to add labor cost, but the material cost is 50-75% cheaper than LVP.  It's known that quality LVP lasts longer than cheap stick & peel, but the question is - does it make sense mathematically to invest more upfront?

I have heard that peel & stick suffers a bit from indentation, so when a tenant moves out, a new floor is in order.

I'm thinking that if LVP costs $6/sqft to install, about $3/sqft is labor.  so if we assume that the labor is the same for peel & stick, it's about $4/sqft installed.  So LVP is about 50% more expensive.  This tells me that if the LVP will last at least 50% longer than peel & stick, it may be worth it.

What are your thoughts and experiences with peel & stick?  Am I looking at it the right way?  It seems like the quality/durability of these products have improved in recent years.  Again, I'm not looking at this from the perspective of someone that's going to hold it for 10-20 years where the most durable material is the best.

Thanks in advance

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Evan Polaski
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  • Cincinnati, OH
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Evan Polaski
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  • Cincinnati, OH
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@Ki Lee I think you are generally good with either.  In my experience, the LVP does feel a little nicer, but for a rental, especially C, won't matter.  The key with both is having a perfectly smooth and solid subfloor.  If there is any flex or inconsistencies both will suffer.

I have had, what I believe is TrafficMaster, in a property for 8 yrs now, and still looks great.  It has a wood grain texture that hides any little dents or scratches.  I have also put it in another property 1 year ago, and you can see it rising and separating at spots because the subfloor isn't perfect.  Same can be said for LVP that I just put in a flip.  There are soft spots where the patching of old vents isn't perfect, and a couple panels pulling away from each other slightly in a corner with a soft subfloor.

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