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Who determines the Cap?
People say Cap Rates are the function of investor's appetite. If they are willing to pay less for NOI, Cap will go up.
What about the tenants on the other hand? If they decide that 1000$ for studio is too expensive, and they can't afford it based on economics they can make the prices to go down. That will decrease our NOI, and Cap will also go up.
So, is Cap really a representation of investors appetite or D&S of rental housing? Or maybe it's a combination of both?
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@Vlad Denisov, Cap Rates are essentially "the market" when it comes to commercial real estate. They are a reflection of demand, risk tolerance, expected returns, etc. of the investors, not the tenants. Of course, supply and demand of the tenants drives rental prices, but not in the way you're suggesting above.
Tenants as a group don't decide that $1k is too expensive and all of a sudden every studio in town is empty. Instead, owners are constantly nudging rents to see what the market will bear. So a few studios may get listed for $1k and not get leased up, the owners lower to $950 and get tenants. The owners didn't "lose" $50/month, so that doesn't change the NOI. In fact, if a studio was renting for $900, the NOI is still improved, just not as much as it could have been.
There are, in fact, very few markets where rents decline...ever (of course there are exceptions). A bit of a blip during the financial crisis in very expensive areas (I watched it happen in Manhattan), but that quickly corrected itself as it had more to do with the over-heated market leading up to it.
In most areas rents were flat or actually went up. Why? People were losing their homes and had to go somewhere, which increased demand for rentals. When I moved from Central CT in 2004 I was paying $600/month for a large 1 bd. A similar apartment there now rents for $900+. A 50% increase in 15 years. Not stellar rent growth compared to other markets, but that town's housing prices are just starting to get back to the pre-crash highs. So, rents = 50%+, housing prices = flat.