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Updated almost 6 years ago on . Most recent reply
Hard money on 4 unit property?
I'm looking for some advice regarding the possible purchase of a permitted 4 unit property, but it needs an entire renovation. During the renovation, the plan is to add a 5th unit in the attic. How will this effect the loan? Does this change the requirements to that of a commercial loan since it would eventually be a 5+ property or can i still qualify for a conventional? I've also been told that I may not be able to get a conventional loan because the house is currently unhabitable. Is this true? If so, is my only option to get a hard money loan? I would need the loan for the property itself and also a construction loan, which I have read that you can often bundle. Any advice or direction would be great.
The goal is to flip after the house is renovated and filled with tenants.
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@Grant H., you've got a lot wrapped up in this. Point by point:
- Before "planning" to add a 5th unit, you need to confirm with the town that you are properly zoned and that the town will let you do it.
- Going to a 5+ unit property makes you commercial. The town may insist that you upgrade the entire building to meet commercial building codes. E.g. sprinklers throughout the entire building. That alone could be $25-35k easily.
- You have to run your ARV as a commercial property. They are valued differently than residential properties. Don't assume that adding another unit will increase the value commensurately.
- You could do a construction-to-permanent loan. Since you're making it a commercial property, you'll need a commercial loan. Expect to bring 25% of the total cost (purchase + construction) to the table.
- HML may be a good option here as most of those lenders specialize in flips and BRRRR-type projects. In many cases you only need to bring 15-20% of the purchase price and you can finance the rest. Rates are relatively high, but that's the trade off.
- Flipping may not be as easy as you think once you add in a 5th unit. Owner-occupiers will no longer qualify to buy it, so at that point you're only market is other investors. Have you considered making this a true BRRRR and holding it for the long-term cash flow?