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Updated almost 6 years ago on . Most recent reply

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  • Hendersonville, NC
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Is this loco en la cabeza?

Account Closed
  • Specialist
  • Hendersonville, NC
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Hi all,

I just put a property under contract and I want to know if what you think I'm asking for is crazy...

We'll start with the perks:

1. The apartment is in an up and coming city of North Carolina named Hickory. It's not far from Charlotte and it's in the fastest growing county in the state.

2. The rent is way below value. The average rent on this 10 unit apartment is $475/unit and it could be raised conservatively to $650/unit without any turnover. In the 8 CAP market, that would raise the property value by $262,500.

3. With rents raised to $650, we have a CAP rate of 11.33%, Cash on Cash Return of 26.01%, and a cash flow of $2,302.63/month.

If we used a conventional bank at 75% LTV, the down payment would be $106,250.

Here's the catch. I don't have that money sitting around.

Therefore, here's my question.

If I brought in a money partner to pay the down payment, would splitting profits 50/50 after they've been paid back be crazy? I would probably live in one of the units and oversee rehab. I don't know how to rehab but I would learn or bring in additional partners.

Another strategy would be, I bring in a money partner to put 10% down and we get a hard money loan for the other 90%. Then we refinance in 2 years after rents have been raised.

That would have someone putting down $42,500.

Is it wild for me to be asking 50% on the deal?

Thanks,

Ben

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Charles Soper
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Hey Ben, great job getting a multifamily under contract!

I'm not sure I'm following your numbers. You said 25% down would be 106,250, which equate to a purchase price of 425,000. With rents at $475/month and assuming 100% occupancy and 50% expenses that gives you $28,500 NOI and a cap rate of 6.7%.

Let's assume you do nothing but raise the rents and still maintain a 50% expense ratio you get an NOI of 39,000, with the same 6.7% cap you get a valuation of just over $582,000, which is a difference of $157,000, not $262,000.

Where are you getting an 11 cap and 26% cash on cash? Assume a loan of 318750 (75% LTV) @ 5.5%, 5 year/30 Am your payment is around $1800, which leaves you closer to $1450/month net or $17400 annually, which is more like 16% cash on cash - that also assume you aren't splitting the profits, if that's the cash it's more like 8.2% CoC.

Now as a passive investor one could certainly do worse than 8.2%, but this also assumes no hiccups (like long vacancies).

Given your statement about not knowing how to do rehab, I’d be pretty nervous giving you a check for $100k, and as for the alternative option, you’d be hard pressed as a rookie to find a hard money lender that will give you 90%.

As for other options, will the seller finance the whole thing for a short while while you bring up the NOI? Or maybe carry the down payment with interest only payments until you can Refi? They are selling for a reason, if you can find that reason and solve their pain/problem it could work to both of your advantages.

Hate to be a downer but that’s a tough one.

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