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asset mgmt fee and preferred returns
Hello!
A few questions about how the returns get disbursed in a syndicated MF deal...
1. I've seen that the asset management fee is typically 1-3%....of what? The gross rents? The rents that are collected?
2. Is asset management fee taken out before or after the passive investors' preferred returns?
Thanks for the help!
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@Jeremy Porto the easy one to answer is #2. The asset management fee is paid before cash flows to the waterfall.
#1 is more difficult to answer because the dirty secret in the syndication business is that asset management fees are almost always described as “1%” but the similarities stop there.
The method I use is 1% of gross collected income. This is the same way property managers calculate their management fees.
But I also see 1% of the capital raised, 1% of the total of debt plus equity, and 1% of the property value (typically determined by a cap rate specified in the calculation in the operating agreement).
Using any of these methods would result in an asset management fee far higher than using 1% of gross collected income, yet the sponsor will still say “1% asset management fee”. An investor that isn’t paying attention and is comparing one offering to another might completely overlook the fact that the asset management fees are actually vastly different.