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Expenses Per Unit
Does anyone use rules of thumb for estimating expenses per unit for multi-family property? I have recently been told:
Owner paid utilities: 4K-4.5K Door
Tenant paid utilities: 3K - 3.5K Door
Do any owners have actuals per door they can share?
I'm in Central Texas.
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How many doors are you talking a 4 unit or a 100 unit?? They operate differently with expenses.
For above 5 units a typical rule of thumb with landlord paid utility is 60% of gross expected income.
So say 100 units at 700 in rent per door is 70,000 monthly X 12 = 840,000 gross expected a year for income.
840,000 X .40 ( 60% costs) = 336,000 expected annual NOI
840,000 - 336,000 = 504,000 annual expected expenses / 100 doors = 5,040 a door per year and / 12 = 420 / month.
This is with no deferred immediate capex to the property which would come off the purchase price.
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