Skip to content
×
Pro Members Get
Full Access!
Get off the sidelines and take action in real estate investing with BiggerPockets Pro. Our comprehensive suite of tools and resources minimize mistakes, support informed decisions, and propel you to success.
Advanced networking features
Market and Deal Finder tools
Property analysis calculators
Landlord Command Center
ANNUAL Save 54%
$32.50 /mo
$390 billed annualy
MONTHLY
$69 /mo
billed monthly
7 day free trial. Cancel anytime
×
Take Your Forum Experience
to the Next Level
Create a free account and join over 3 million investors sharing
their journeys and helping each other succeed.
Use your real name
By signing up, you indicate that you agree to the BiggerPockets Terms & Conditions.
Already a member?  Login here
Multi-Family and Apartment Investing
All Forum Categories
Followed Discussions
Followed Categories
Followed People
Followed Locations
Market News & Data
General Info
Real Estate Strategies
Landlording & Rental Properties
Real Estate Professionals
Financial, Tax, & Legal
Real Estate Classifieds
Reviews & Feedback

Updated almost 11 years ago on . Most recent reply

User Stats

108
Posts
10
Votes
Ron Steele
  • Birmingham, AL
10
Votes |
108
Posts

Seller Seconds on Commercial Financing

Ron Steele
  • Birmingham, AL
Posted

Are there certain price points that lenders tend to allow seller seconds. Or that investors are more sophisticated and understand seller seconds may be apart of the transaction.

I'm looking at something at around a million... 10%-15% seller and 10%-15% equity and a 75%-80% ltv.

Is this attainable in today's market?

What type of lenders should I be presenting this too?

I've generally stayed with smaller multi family units, but want to look at a bigger building?

Thanks

Most Popular Reply

User Stats

15,180
Posts
11,265
Votes
Joel Owens
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Canton, GA
11,265
Votes |
15,180
Posts
Joel Owens
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Canton, GA
ModeratorReplied

Hi Ron,

The 10 to 15% seller held second is a part of it.

At around 1 million it's small time loans. The insurance and conduits start usually around 2 million and up LOAN BALANCE after the down payment.

At 1 million putting 15% down and a seller held second of 10% you are talking a 750,000 first loan. You will be looking at local banks to regional banks for this. They will absolutely want personal guarantees, recourse, any cross collateralization etc.

Local banks have auditors on them to do ultra cautious underwriting with maximum security from the borrower. Downside with local banks is the term loans are 5 to maybe 7 years and very rare but sometimes can land a 10 year term loan. Amorts range from 20 to 25 usually. Rates tend to be higher on the smaller commercial loans as the small banks have cornered that market as the big boys don't want the business. The banks typically do allow a seller held second as long as borrower has skin in the game. Being local will help you and also sometimes you can get better loan terms from your bank that is already holding your deposits to keep your business versus a bank quoting the loan only.

Hope it helps.

business profile image
NNN Invest
5.0 stars
3 Reviews

Loading replies...