Would love some input on investment or opinion. Thank you

Would love some input on investment or opinion. Thank you

Member since 2020 · 10 posts · 4 votes

Hello again guys!! I posted about my first investment (fully paid off not to brag) and am now living in my second home. I came across a fourplex opportunity. I want a second opinion since the housing market has no clue what can happen. The numbers are as follows: The investment cost base price is $690,000, Gross monthly income is an average of $6200 per month, Fees are $2412 including 10% property management fee, Taxes, Insurance, Community Fees, and 1% Repair since the property are new construction. The location is great right next to the country club and schools. They base it on a 5% Vacancy rate and the estimated return on investment is 6% which is really low compared to the stock market or money market account for this amount of risk. There have been 30 fourplexes sold with 30 left, it is a gated community. So, the fear I have is minimal cash flow, property management would make more than the actual investor and the investor is taking the risk. It's being offered to the public investor why hasn't an accredited investor picked up this opportunity? Now the pros are the location, 30 lots have been sold meaning there is an interest in this investment. Buying a house is a lot harder than renting. I would have said no but what gets me is the location and fear of missing out and not being able to get this opportunity again, especially in a gated community. Usually, these deals are taken by the bigger investor. Ask me questions I need advice. Thank you for your time Also I would be coming in with a 20% down payment. Checked with my lender and the mortgage payment would be at $4681..

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  • Lender · Saddle Brook, NJ · Member since 2023 · 431 posts · 231 votes
    3y

    Well, I'm no pro on gated communities, so I can't give you any real insight on that front. But, the mortgage payment seems very high.

    Are they including taxes and insurance when they quoted you that? Or are they just using the principal and interest?

  • Member since 2020 · 10 posts · 4 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Ryan Muska:

    Well, I'm no pro on gated communities, so I can't give you any real insight on that front. But, the mortgage payment seems very high.

    Are they including taxes and insurance when they quoted you that? Or are they just using the principal and interest?


     Thank you for the quick response.. that was including taxes and insurance. .. 

  • Michael SmytheBusiness Member
    Real Estate Agent · Metro Detroit · Member since 2023 · 4k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    3y

    This is too small for an accredited investor.

    Does your 6% ROI include principal paydown of the mortgage?

    What are the appreciation expectations for rents and property value?

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  • Developer · Philadelphia, PA · Member since 2015 · 2k+ posts · 905 votes
    3y

    Reyes, where is this located? We are considering something like this in FL if the numbers work. The challenge seems to be finding the right loan product for buying 20-50 units while the builder's lender is geared for individual purchases.

    Also curious why you paid off your first property, especially if it was at a low interest rate?

  • Member since 2020 · 10 posts · 4 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Michael Smythe:

    This is too small for an accredited investor.

    Does your 6% ROI include principal paydown of the mortgage?

    What are the appreciation expectations for rents and property value?


    Hello, no, I ran a proforma to see where I would be at with the principal paydown, and it showed me that I would get a 25% cash-on-cash return. It is hard to get these realtors to understand it in investment form. I had two realtors tell me with a 20% down I would be making $2000 cashflow, but I don't see how they're getting to those numbers. Rent has increased 18% from this year to last year, but I believe it is because of high-interest rates. I also am contacting other apartment complexes in their area to see what their demand looks like but online I wasn't able to find any availability, so the demand is there. Property values have stayed stable.

  • Member since 2020 · 10 posts · 4 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Reyes Tena-Martinez:
    Quote from @Michael Smythe:

    This is too small for an accredited investor.

    Does your 6% ROI include principal paydown of the mortgage?

    What are the appreciation expectations for rents and property value?


    Hello, no, I ran a proforma to see where I would be at with the principal paydown, and it showed me that I would get a 25% cash-on-cash return. It is hard to get these realtors to understand it in investment form. I had two realtors tell me with a 20% down I would be making $2000 cashflow, but I don't see how they're getting to those numbers. Rent has increased 18% from this year to last year, but I believe it is because of high-interest rates. I also am contacting other apartment complexes in their area to see what their demand looks like but online I wasn't able to find any availability, so the demand is there. Property values have stayed stable.


     Really appreciate the feedback. This alone is helping me a lot..

  • Member since 2020 · 10 posts · 4 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Percy N.:

    Reyes, where is this located? We are considering something like this in FL if the numbers work. The challenge seems to be finding the right loan product for buying 20-50 units while the builder's lender is geared for individual purchases.

    Also curious why you paid off your first property, especially if it was at a low interest rate?


     Hello, these fourplexes are located in New Mexico. I still haven't said yes trying to get as many points of view as possible. Great question, Three years ago I was hit by a semi while on foot. I lost my leg above the knee and since then I have had a different perspective on life. Everyone is always scared to lose their home. I wanted to feel that if the unexpected ever happened again, I would always have shelter over my family's head. I can take many risks, but I will always know that if I were to lose it all. I have my life insurance waiting for me in my 1st home. You don't have to lose it all when you fail because you'll always have that one door that will always be open. So now whatever real estate investment I make good or bad it doesn't matter. I'll always come home. 

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