Calculating Cash on Cash Return

Calculating Cash on Cash Return

Member since 2022 · 16 posts · 19 votes

I'm using the Rental Property tool on BP, but I have a question on CoC return. I have around $15k in cash, and $305k available in my HELOC. When using the tool I put the HELOC funds in the downpayment, so the report assumes that the downpayment I'm making is cash. So when I see final cash flow, I have to subtract the debt service payment going to the HELOC. That's fine, but my deal only has around a 9% CoC return even before I'm paying for my HELOC debt service.

I guess my question when evaluating this deal, I'm probably only going to put $10k in cash in the deal and the rest will come from my HELOC. I'm assuming that I should still use the 9% as my CoC... but since I'm technically borrowing the HELOC funds my actual CoC would be exponentially higher since I only have $10k in actual cash in the deal. I'm looking at a commercial loan at a rate of 5.25% (5 year ARM), amortized over 25 years, and a floating HELOC rate of Prime - 1% (so still 3.75% at the moment). It's hard to see a clear picture since I have two sources of borrowing and they're at different rates.

Thoughts?

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Contractor · Scottsdale, AZ · Member since 2010 · 2k+ posts · 3k+ votes
4y

The draw from your HELOC is being used to acquire this asset. The HELOC payment is part of your debt for the deal.

You calculate your cash flow by taking your gross income, minus debt service and other expenses (including heloc payment).

Whatever cashflow is left you can compare to your $10k cash into the deal to determine your cash on cash return year 1.

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  • Contractor · Scottsdale, AZ · Member since 2010 · 2k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    4y

    The draw from your HELOC is being used to acquire this asset. The HELOC payment is part of your debt for the deal.

    You calculate your cash flow by taking your gross income, minus debt service and other expenses (including heloc payment).

    Whatever cashflow is left you can compare to your $10k cash into the deal to determine your cash on cash return year 1.

  • Member since 2022 · 48 posts · 10 votes
    4y

    @Matt Browning

    Your deal is ****. How can you be making 9% coc if you use leverage to acquire the deal?

    That's like 2% Cap Rate

  • Investor · Central Virginia · Member since 2020 · 394 posts · 253 votes
    4y

    Hi @Matt Browning, Are you buying it for cash and using the HELOC to pay the cash for the property? If so the HELOC payment should count against your debt servicing. Simple math is (Monthy income - all monthly expenses) * 12 / total cash into deal. If you are already accounting for HELOC as debt servicing it will be counted in your monthly expenses. I hope this helps, check out my YT channel for more CoC return deals - InvestLYH.

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