Finding Short Sale deals, non mls

[Jeff Warner]

Ok, I know that I can go to a Realtor office and get a recent list of short sale's currently on the MLS but there has got to be a better way to find deals.

I'd love to hear what people are doing to find deals NOT on the MLS. With all the personal info needed it just seems like a realtor would only get in the way. There are some short sales in my area that have been on the market for over 2 years.

Are you guys buying lists and direct mailing to people that are upside down? I look forward to the feedback.

Jeff