Property subject to a first held by PNC, how to negotiate w/ PNC?

Property subject to a first held by PNC, how to negotiate w/ PNC?

Rob SinglesPro Member
Investor · Sebring / Jacksonville, FL · Member since 2013 · 23 posts · 5 votes

Hello all, first post here at BP, a great resource indeed. Now let me get on to the question.

What options do I have to deal with the first mortgage holder, PNC Bank, after a second mortgage foreclosure?

I have found a property (located in FL) which was foreclosed on by a second mortgagee, meaning the first holder, PNC Bank, still holds a mortgage on the property. The second is offering the property at a very reasonable price, of course.

While the second mortgagee was pursuing foreclosure, PNC filed for foreclosure, but then dismissed w/o prejudice and they have not refilled in the intervening 2 years. PNC’s interest in the first came by way of successor by merger (2 mergers to be exact).

So if this deal is to work for me, I need to work out a resolution with PNC. Any ideas on how/if to approach PNC on this? The face value of PNC’s first is a little under market value, however I assume with late-fees and what not it is underwater.

The original property owner is not cooperative, so the only thing I can think of is to purchase the note from PNC and then file a satisfaction.

In trying to lay everything out I may have made it more confusing than it needed to be so feel free to ask any clarifying questions.

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  • Miami, FL · Member since 2012 · 612 posts · 189 votes
    12y

    Confidentiality rules govern mortgages as well. I doubt that you would be able to negotiate (or even talk about) this loan with PNC without written permission from the property owner. The written permission could be in the form of a purchase agreement. As long as your purchase price covers the mortgage balance plus penalties etc for PNC, the closing simply pays off the mortgage and you get title.

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